Talk:Currency sign (generic)
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Usage
[edit]There should be an example of proper usage, e.g. ¤1.22 or 1.22¤?
Rupee
[edit]Removed the "₨" (U+20A8, RUPEE SIGN) example symbol. There are a few different rupee symbols in Unicode, but anyone who uses "Rs" or "Rp" spells it out rather than using "¤" (U+00A4, CURRENCY SIGN) if their font doesn't happen to have the ligature. --67.183.217.186 23:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Stub
[edit]Isn't this a stub? What does the symbol mean, etc.
origin
[edit]Who made this up and when? -lysdexia 12:18, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Examples
[edit]I would like to see an example of how this symbol has been/is being used. As it was suggested as an replacement for the dollar sign, I would assume it is being used somewhat like this:
¤50 NOK —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.56.111 (talk) 21:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
Pre-existing use of the symbol in Scandinavia prevented its adoption as the EUR symbol
[edit]I recall, but have no sources for, there being an issue with Scandanavian use of the symbol for an important pre-existing use. So, although Apple and SUN tried to replace it by the € glyph, strong opposition from Scandinavia stopped it being accepted. Does anyone have any information about that to add to the article? Were they using that glyph specifically or were they just using the upper 128 character set for their additional symbols? (Of course it was all overtaken by Unicode and the practice of trying to hammer anything and everything into 256-64 slots came to an end). --Red King (talk) 16:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
- I've noticed subsequently that the glyph (O overstrike /) is used to indicate diameter. --Red King (talk) 23:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Use as placeholder?
[edit]ISTM one good use of this symbol ought to be as a placeholder for a currency symbol in contexts where no specific currency is being talked about. For example, when writing about currency notations. Is the ¤ symbol used in this way to any notable extent? -- Smjg (talk) 11:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Why not "currency sign"?
[edit]Why is this is not at the obvious currency sign? "Currency" is not a typographical concept, and currency sign is perfectly unambiguous. Jpatokal (talk) 12:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- £ is a currency sign. $ is a currency sign. € is a currency sign. So what do you mean it's perfectly unambiguous? -- Smjg (talk) 08:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
- Actually, the intro says it's currency sign, in bold. Not currency. In typography, this sign is called the currency sign, as it is in Unicode. No one calls this symbol "currency". And `£` is called pound sign. Then, even if it were ambiguous in WP-context or elsewhere, that should not prevent us from naming it correctly. -DePiep (talk) 12:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- In fact, the PostScript glyph name is /currency... AnonMoos (talk) 15:53, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- So "No one calls this symbol "currency". is factually wrong... AnonMoos (talk) 00:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- ... it is codenamed thus, including the slash btw, as a code, or abbreviation. In HTML you can use
¤
. Nice. But the sign is not a currency. This sign is: "currency sign". The rest is inexplainable for incorrectness. -DePiep (talk) 01:09, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
- ... it is codenamed thus, including the slash btw, as a code, or abbreviation. In HTML you can use
- So "No one calls this symbol "currency". is factually wrong... AnonMoos (talk) 00:47, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Use in earlier versions of ISO/IEC 646
[edit]One reason why pre-1991 versions of ISO/IEC 646 had this generic currency symbol in place of the dollar sign is that apparently during the 1970s and 1980s, representatives from Communist nations objected to the inclusion of the dollar sign... AnonMoos (talk) 10:02, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
- Highly dubious since almost all the Communist nations use Cyrillic script and thus need to replace almost every code point. Even with Western Latin, some code points in a 7-bit coding system need to be reused for national variations. The US is unusual in only needing two ($ and ¢). --Red King (talk) 18:17, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
SUB
[edit]Incorrect statement removed: "This character plays the role of the SUB (substitute) control character of ASCII, but is specific to currency."
As per ASCII, SUB is a "character that may be substituted for a character which is determined to be invalid or in error." This role is totally unrelated to the role of ¤, which is not used as a replacement for an invalid or erroneous currency symbol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.112.175.168 (talk) 08:35, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
Was already in use in 1966
[edit]Raytheon's CK1414 vacuum tube character generator already sported it back then. 85.240.216.71 (talk) 23:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
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See also: Lozenge Suggestion
[edit]"See also" section reads: Lozenge (similar looking symbol historically sometimes used in related contexts) Why? They look completely different to me (◊ ¤) and after reading the Lozenge article I could not find any connection between their usage. 'Historically used in related contexts' requires a citation of some kind. Ggenellina (talk) 00:07, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
Microsoft Word usage — as end-of-cell formatting marker.
[edit]This symbol is used by Microsoft Word as the "end-of-cell" marker when formatting marks are enabled (aka "Show ¶"). Cf. Microsoft Office: Format a table > Add table borders to specified cells only . Because Word is pretty widely used and it's kind of hard to find the explanation of what this means, I do wonder if it is appropriate to add to this article. I'm kind of on the fence as to its appropriateness. Thoughts? jhawkinson (talk) 02:30, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Inappropriate disambiguation
[edit]To use typography as a disambiguator is seriously odd. Does anyone have a better suggestion than currency sign (generic)? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 09:09, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- Taking silence as assent, I have moved the article. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:18, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
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