Talk:List of drug films
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[edit]Lilja 4-ever - glue
Samotari (The Loners) - marijuana
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.122.207.3 (talk • contribs) 08:59, May 28, 2005
list only goes to T?
[edit]where is the rest of the list? Also: Party Monster — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.96.187.254 (talk • contribs) 02:03, September 13, 2006
- I have taken the privlige of adding Rolling Kansas to the list -Sky — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.60.226.100 (talk • contribs) 11:57, October 6, 2006
- it lacks on the list the film "Synanon" (1965) from the director Richard Quine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.155.77.19 (talk • contribs) 12:43, January 21, 2007
Dazed and Confused
[edit]I remember Alcohol and Marijuana, but I don't remember the use of LSD in Dazed and Confused. Maybe I'm wrong. Anybody care to refresh my memory? Ph33rspace 07:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
- I'm just going to go ahead and delete the LSD claim. Ph33rspace 00:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- As far as I know, there isn't any LSD use in Dazed & Confused. Someguy303 09:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- oh there is though in the very beginning when they are goin to class. there is lSd references watched closely and you'll see. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.139.82.236 (talk • contribs) 00:06, May 22, 2007
- There is DEFINATELY one reference to LSD in Dazed and Confused (Maybe more.) The one I'm thinking of is when they are in school still and the Main character, QB of the football team, is talking to the "nerdy" kids and the pot dealer walks by and hands him something. One of them asks "So is that a smoked or a liquid lunch" He means, is that pot or LSD? I wish I could remember the character names, it's been a while since I've seen this movie. Not a big reference, but it's still a reference. There's probably more here or there, but fuck if I remember. Tainted42 (talk) 06:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Drug Films
[edit]Hmmm, as I went down the list of films I realised that there wasn't any reference to alcohol use. I assume that this is because that alcohol use is too prevalent, and not because somebody believed that alcohol is not a mind-altering substance, which it most definetly is. Does everybody agree that this article should specify that it refers to recreational drug use excluding alcohol due to the prevalence? Ph33rspace 00:56, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
- I think movies with excessive alcohol use such as when the main character is an active alcoholic or if it is a college movie with lots of alcohol, but not when alcohol is seen as wine at a dinner party. Just my opinion, so I added Leaving Las Vegas.
- Weephar 07:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think we need any alcohol references at all. We do however need to add a sentence into the introduction that explains why alcohol and tobacco are not included. Someguy303 08:58, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- What the heck would that explanation be? 71.112.41.87 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:44, 4 February 2011 (UTC).
Alcohol and nicotine and caffeine should all be added. Plus pharmaceuticals otherwise this article is incorrect, biased and untrue! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.188.68 (talk) 12:37, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- While I agree with adding nicotine and tobacco in principle, pragmatically it would make this list too long and unwieldy to be practical for the reader. I propose separate lists for alcohol and tobacco, for the simple fact that those substances are legal, historically more socially acceptable in Hollywood, and appear in *many* more films than illegal drugs and psychoactive pharmaceuticals. Adding those films will take a huge amount of work. Adding the labels before doing the work will make this list much less accurate than it is currently. Jay Dubya (talk) 17:21, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Naked Lunch
[edit]For Naked Lunch, I am unsure if it was actually heroin that was the drug in the movie or if it was a fictional drug...though I am not totally sure as that move was really crazy and confusing and I know that the book that it is based on is written by a writer, William S. Burroughs, who was an opiate addict and had written about heroin in other books...but I am not sure if it is just the book that is about heroin and the movie was a weird adaptation or if both are about heroin or if both are about a fictional drug. Just wondering, so that if Naked Lunch isn't about heroin then it can be changed. Weephar 07:30, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
- In Naked Lunch there are two primary drugs, both of them are fictional opiates corollaries (meaning while fictional in production they are rather accurate in effect; sedation, hallucination, withdrawal, etc). The first is an insecticide. The second is a pus-like discharge produced by the protagonist's type writer. Jay Dubya (talk) 17:25, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Redundant Article
[edit]Stoner film probably ought to be merged into this article, or at least listed as a "See also." 63.215.28.84 12:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
- "See also" is now added. I've also added all of the films from the other article except the new Harold & Kumar, which won't be out for awhile. 209.247.5.49 05:54, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Platoon
[edit]The characters smoke marijuana throughout and there is one reference to "shooting shit". Also, at the end of the film one of the men takes a bag of heroin from the body of a dead VC. Maybe this should be included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.169.71 (talk • contribs) 15:55, July 27, 2007
- Tough call. At what point does a movie become a drug film? Can Platoon be both a war film and a drug film? Perhaps worthy of further discussion. I am honestly undecided. Jay Dubya (talk) 17:27, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Drugs
[edit]Is not alcohol a drug? Shouldn't those films that have alchol use/abuse in them be noted as well? "Ethanol is a centrally-acting drug with a depressant effect........" Straight from Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikzaring (talk • contribs) 15:00, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
This list needs to define "drug" properly. It is currently only listing illegal drugs. Legal drugs (caffeine, tobacco, alcohol, prescription) should be included on this list. It's dumb to list Beerfest because of cannabis use because beer is in the title! Otherwise the article title should be "List of films containing illegal drug use". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.119.138.42 (talk) 01:29, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Update
[edit]- I've explained why alcohol and tobacco aren't listed.
- I re-wrote the intro so it contains all the links to the common drugs.
- I removed Weeds as I don't think we should include television shows.
- I broke the Cheech and Chong movies up into separate titles.
- I alphabetized the drugs under each movie: real drugs A-Z, then fictional drugs.
- I tried to replace all the slang with technical terminology.
That's it for now. 63.215.28.84 (talk) 16:34, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
- There's been a couple movies called "Wasted," but the only one from 2002 was another TV show, so I deleted that, too.
Okay, done. 63.215.28.84 (talk) 17:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Really?
[edit]Drug movies? What exactly is the criteria? there are thousands of movies whee people use drugs, not all of them focus on substances. I really dont think some movies should be listed...please revise. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wickedxjade (talk • contribs) 10:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
- Can you please be more specific on what criteria you would prefer? Jay Dubya (talk) 17:28, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
8 Mile
[edit]I honestly dont remember ANY marijuana use in this movie. I think this movie should be removed from this list.
216.141.228.112 (talk) 18:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
---During the driving scene, where B-Rabbit was driving his old, run down car. The people in the car where smoking marijuana and passing it along to each other. (ShinFuYux) —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShinFuYux (talk • contribs) 07:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
"Ecstasy"--->MDMA
[edit]I noticed at least one case of MDMA being used with a majority of "Ecstasy" for all others. Ecstasy is not a drug, rather slang for MDMA, thus I suggest all movies including MDMA (or "Ecstasy") should be referred to as MDMA instead here on out. I'm going to change to already existing ones. If anyone disagrees feel free to put in your say.--Astavats (talk) 05:10, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
- I do not think it is accurate to state that Ecstasy always = MDMA (the inverse, MDMA always = Ecstasy, *is* true). Para-methoxyamphetamine (PMA), 2c-i, DXM, methylone, MBDB, BZP and TFMPP are just a small number of the many substances that have been marketed and sold as Ecstasy both in Hollywood and world-wide. This occurs both so that chemists can produce MDMA-like substances with legal or non-monitored precursor chemicals and because many of these alternatives are cheaper to produce. Only an insignificantly small percentage of consumers and street-level dealers have any ability to purity test the ecstasy they consume. In summary: a majority of what is consumed as "Ecstasy" is not MDMA. Because of this, it is reasonable to list MDMA and ecstasy separately. When a film explicitly uses "MDMA" in the script, we should use that label. If the script only uses "Ecstasy" we should use that, instead. While there are issues with both proposals I believe this approach would be marginally more accurate both factually and in terms of author intent. Jay Dubya (talk) 17:44, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Fear and Loathing
[edit]Adrenochrome. "(fictionalized, as it's not truly a recreational drug)." is to some degree misleading as it seems to infer that it is drug. it isnt necessarily a drug as much as its adrenaline for injections that has oxidized and has become useless. aka pink adrenalin/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Think8359 (talk • contribs) 19:45, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
Majority of the films here are not "DRUG-THEME" films
[edit]The very vast majority of the films here are not drug films. They're simply films that mention drugs To be defined as a drug film, the prevailing theme of the movie or lead character should be drugs/drug addict. Best examples include Man with a Golden Arm, Drugstore Cowboy, Valley of the Dolls. Just a doobie joke doesn't doesn't make it a drug film. If a movie has a car in it, is it a "car film"? What a load of bollocks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.242.191 (talk) 20:51, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I fully agree, to consider "9" a drug movie is just bizarre. And it wasn't the only example. I believe this list should only depict movies where drugs (including alcohol) is playing a major role for its development. A grand example would be "Requiem for a dream" but also "Traffic". ~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.224.155.20 (talk) 20:27, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
- Where should the line be drawn? Should we include a film that fits multiple genres? Consider Drugstore Cowboy for example. Is that a drug film or a caper movie? What about Bad Lieutenant - drug film or dark police procedural? I don't expect an answer but I do hope these examples help illustrate the issue is a bit more nuanced than it first appears. While we can debate about individual films, what's important is that we develop a set of criteria for conclusion and reach consensus on it. This way we have a way to judge new films for inclusion that are based on something more specific than a persona opinion as to what "Drug film" means. Jay Dubya (talk) 17:57, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
- I very much second this. Going through the list I'm seeing films listed like Dune and Easy A. Dune has nothing to do with drugs in any conventional sense, even factoring in the spice Melange. Some form of criteria would be helpful. Astapor12 (talk) 18:21, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Ali G in da house
[edit]With Ali G in da house there was also a lot of or marijuana use —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.94.55.29 (talk) 16:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
RFAD/ New films
[edit]I added Little Miss Sunshine and Donnie Darko as both show hard drugs being snorted. Donkey Punch shows significant drugs use (mainly extremely strong stimulants) and should be mentioned. As for requiem for a dream, I have knowledge of pharmacology: the pills shown as prescribed to Ellen Burstyn's character are never named except as "uppers" and "something for sleep". The 75,100 and 175 markings suggest a derivative of amphetamine or similar (eg Preludin) as this dosage of actual amphetamine is impossible. 5mg-20mg IR/ 15-40mg ER is the therapeutic dose (see Adderall/Dexedrine). Therefore I wrote as "Stimulants". The depressant drug is unlikely to be a benzodiazepine in 1970s New York, and certainly not diazepam (never a green "300" pill made.) The only sleep inducer normally given as 300mg is methaqualone (now schedule I, then not). The pills could also be fakes made specially for the film. Why would anyone suggest "DXM"? She has no dissociative effects etc. and all that is seen is liquid drank out of a brown bottle. As this is part of the withdrawal scene, Methadose is far more likely. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.23.228 (talk) 19:09, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Lost in Translation?
[edit]I don't remember any drugs appearing in Lost in Translation (except alcohol, of course). Perhaps there were some used during the karaoke/night-on-the-town scene, but that hardly qualifies as drugs as "either as a major theme or as a few memorable scenes." Can someone refresh my memory, or is this a bad entry, like so many of the films in that list that only happen to mention drugs once or twice without it ever being actually significant to the film? Wefrucar (talk) 05:33, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Shrek 2
[edit]Shrek 2? Really? Shrek 2? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.100.221.126 (talk) 06:54, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
You know what, guys, I don't even know where to begin.
[edit]I'm moving at least Donnie Darko and Shrek II. I'm sorry, anti-psychotic medicine/placebo, while technically a drug, should not belong on this list. In any case, the neither the medicine Donnie uses or the catnip is in any way "memorable" or that central.
This list is just insulting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.249.185.131 (talk) 00:25, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- Many wikipedia articles are targets for vandalism, unfortunately it kindof goes with the territory. Thank you for removing the affected articles. Of course, you are welcome to help with further improvements if you take issue with other entries. Jay Dubya (talk) 18:01, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Drug Films & Movies with drugs in them
[edit]By definition "Drug Film" means: 1: Movie/film/documentary with drug use as the - leading story line topic, action of interest, and/or point of interest in film creation. 2: Movie/film with drug use, the sale of drugs, or the handling and/or distribution of drugs as a key topic throughout it's script. Either in character lines or stage props. 3: Movie/film/documentary with drug use, drug language (lingo), mention of drugs by name, uses, effects or method of intake, sale of drugs, thoughts of drugs, or the tools and instruments used to harvest, manufacture, or create drugs. 4: Movie/film/documentary created by the use and/or spending of resources obtained with drugs - their use or sale.
This list of films should be broken up into sections. Shrek isn't the same genre of film as Requiem for a Dream just as Zombieland isn't rated the same as Party Monster. A section should however be listed to include the name of every film from every section. We've got a great list started. We need to organize it better.
EcHo EcHo charlie Hotel oscar (talk) 15:03, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- You may want to look at List of teen films. It was posted for AFD and was a big mess. I cleaned up the list by referencing as many films as I could find that were being called "teen film", "teen movie", or "teenpic". We should verify that here. A lot of films on this list are films that have drug use as an element but is not a drug film. Erik (talk | contribs) 15:14, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
References to use
[edit]References to use. Please add any lists out there below. Erik (talk | contribs) 15:34, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
- High Times' Top 50 Drug Movies
- Top 10: Drug-Related Movies
- [http://www.amazon.com/Addicted-Myth-Menace-Drugs-Film/dp/1840680237/ Addicted: The Myth & Menace of Drugs in Film] (has "Index of Films", but not all may be "drug films")
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No documentaries
[edit]I just noticed that the list featured The Life of Rayful Edmond which is a documentary - I removed it as I don't think this list should also list documentaries. Or am I wrong on that?
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