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Cosplay Token[edit]
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Not a notable cryptocurrency. Sources are in Japanese and mostly broken; the ones that work seem to be PR pieces or listings on trading platforms. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: This is about all I find [1]. Cite Highlighter doesn't index most of the ones used in the article other than #2 - orange- so mixed-reliability. I don't find anything else. Oaktree b (talk) 00:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
List of Doctor Who items[edit]
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Does not have WP:SIGCOV in reliable independent sources. An WP:INDISCRIMINATE list of objects from a television program, such as "Celery". A lot of this is WP:OR, both in the content, and the arbitrary way in which non-notable objects are selected for inclusion. Jontesta (talk) 23:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Retarget items in the list and Delete list.
- -Celery to Fifth Doctor
- -Chameleon Circuit to TARDIS
- -Hand of Omega to Remembrance of the Daleks
- -A Journal of Impossible Things to Human Nature (Doctor Who)
- -Key to Time to Doctor Who season 16
- -Matrix to Gallifrey
- -Delete severed hand due to lack of discernible name that can differentiate it from the concept of a severed hand
- -Delete Squareness Gun due to being non-notable and lacking a redirect target (Maybe Jack Harkness?)
- -Sonic Screwdriver has an article already
- -Superphone lacks a redirect and not really an important concept, delete
- -TARDIS has an article
- -Time Scoop to The Five Doctors
- Only objects I'm iffy on are Eye of Harmony, Psychic Paper, and Vortex Manipulator due to all three being important recurring elements in the series that lack a viable redirect. Maybe The Doctor (Doctor Who) for Psychic Paper, Gallifrey for Eye of Harmony, and Jack Harkness for Vortex Manipulator? I'm not sure.
- Either way, this list is, per nom, very CRUFTy, and I've honestly been meaning to getting rid of it myself. I will note per nom that most of these objects are at least the recurring (Meaning they're not really "non-notable") but there definitely is a lack of inclusion criteria and not much showcasing the list needs to be a separate thing from the other viable redirect targets for most if not all of the entities. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:28, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment Proposal of Pokelego999 looks good. Srijanx22 (talk) 06:50, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
List of recurring Skins characters[edit]
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A non-notable fork of List of Skins characters. We don't need more than one character list for this television show, and there isn't WP:SIGCOV for these unremarkable characters. Jontesta (talk) 23:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to List of Skins characters. There is no need for two separate articles for main and recurring characters of a television show, when a combined article should suffice.⁂CountHacker (talk) 02:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to List of Skins characters - Many of the reoccurring characters listed here that actually had any importance are actually already also covered at the main character article, making this a rather redundant spinout article. Rorshacma (talk) 02:47, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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Batboat[edit]
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This is WP:OR of a list of watercraft from batman comics. Even when you hone in on a discrete topic, it's sourced to angelfire. It has no independent reliable sources. There isn't WP:SIGCOV for any of these boats / submarines / scooters / etc. Jontesta (talk) 23:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, or Merge reliably independently cited content into another article if relevant. Most of this article is uncited, and most of it is trivia, and most of the cited content is not cited to independent WP:RS. -- Softlavender (talk) 03:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify I agree that the article is mostly uncited, and that article mainly mentions its appearances. I feel the article should be taken back to draftspace, where it can be further researched-on and improved. It is notable, as anyone who has watched a Batman TV show or played a Batman video game, etc. would know what the Batboat is. Right now, it definitely doesn't deserve mainspace. MK at your service. 12:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Unlike the article on, say, the Batmobile, this article is not really about a single, coherent topic, and is just a list of a bunch of unrelated watercraft that various incarnations of Batman happened to use, relying almost entirely on non-reliable sources. If anyone suggests a viable Redirect target, I am fine with that as an ATD, but a Merge anywhere would be out of the question due to the poor quality of the sources being used. Rorshacma (talk) 16:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Locations in Jericho (TV series)[edit]
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This page is almost completely uncited and appears to copy aspects from a fan wiki. Without significant real world reception in reliable sources, this fails WP:PLOT and WP:SIGCOV. Jontesta (talk) 23:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - Overly detailed plot minutia that runs afoul of WP:INDISCRIMINATE. There are no viable sources being used, and despite the "Keep" arguments in the previous AFD in 2009, this is not, and never was, a proper topic for a spinout article. Rorshacma (talk) 02:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge the top map to Jericho (2006 TV series)#First season for illustrative purposes, the rest is (I agree) excessive in-universe minutiae without relevance for the real-world. – sgeureka t•c 09:43, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The article isn't important enough for an encyclopedia because it looks like fan trivia and doesn't have independent sources to back it up. It doesn’t bring notability and verifiability. So I think deleting will be a good way. Yakov-kobi (talk) 18:10, 05 July 2024 (UTC)
Down to a Sunless Sea (Graham novel)[edit]
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Non-notable novel by minor writer, no meaningful sourcing Orange Mike | Talk 22:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Ny Times reivew here [2] and a Kirkus Reviews item [3]. Probably just enough, two critical reviews. Oaktree b (talk) 00:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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Anandharagam[edit]
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Another WALLEDGARDEN of an original television program and all its adaptions. References do not show notability and most of the references are about the other adaptions. Would recommend a redirect to Anandha Ragam (TV series) (the original) as an ATD. Would redirect myself but know based on history we would be back here anyway once it is removed. CNMall41 (talk) 21:28, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Anandha_Ragam_(TV_series)#Adaptations -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Anandha_Ragam_(TV_series)#Adaptations. RangersRus (talk) 13:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Prashanth Venkataramanujam[edit]
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Non-notable BLP. Sources relate either to Patriot Act or Hasan Minhaj. – Broccoli & Coffee (Oh hai) 21:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj, you mean? And he might mean WP:CREATIVE as creator/writer of this series... -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:07, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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2014 Schalke 04 Cup[edit]
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As a friendly tournament, the matches were of no consequence. Thus, 10 years later, we can clearly see that the tournament was not noteworthy, wasn't important in the world of football and got a corresponding lack of coverage (apart from reports of the matches). The level of detailed coverage on display (goalscorers, match kick-off times, table) is therefore not needed, with the entry failing WP:NOTINHERITED (notability not being inherited from the participating teams), WP:MILL, WP:SUSTAINED and WP:NOTSTATS among others. Geschichte (talk) 20:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep – It is self-evident that a friendly tournament will not change the course of football history, but the record of a competition that brought together four top-tier clubs in Europe does not seem impertinent to me, and the records of the matches and other relevant information are all available for verification. As there were no more editions to stabilize the competition, as occurred with the Audi Cup, I understand the nomination, but I do not see sufficient reason to eliminate the article. Svartner (talk) 08:08, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete no evidence of WP:SUSTAINED coverage
Brief bursts of news coverage may not sufficiently demonstrate notability
, and thus doesn't meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 15:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
List of Internet television providers[edit]
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Very vague definition of 'internet TV provider'. Questionable accuracy, see Germany for example where linear channels are listed and which are not 'Internet TV providers'. Lack of references, and seems to be an easy target for vandalisers who want to promote their own services. Amchipo (talk) 20:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Federation of European Mineral Programs[edit]
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Doesn't appear to meet WP:N Boleyn (talk) 18:07, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Move to European Mining Course Eastmain (talk • contribs) 20:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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Italian invasion of Kosovo[edit]
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Recent POV content fork from Invasion of Yugoslavia. Olimiko (talk) 19:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Nox (platform)[edit]
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Speedy was just declined (courtesy @Jeraxmoira and Let'srun:, so we're here. It's a copy paste from the source which was present in the first version so there's nothing to revert to and no indication the text was released under an applicable license. I'm unable to find sufficient sourcing on which to build even a stub following rev del. Star Mississippi 19:30, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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J.J. College of Arts and Science[edit]
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Article is written promotionally Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 15:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep. People from the school were a part of several books (albeit endless passing mentions) and the college's tryst with sports is documented (albeit passing mentions). DareshMohan (talk) 06:21, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, Draftify at most. Not notable and not enough WP:SIGCOV at this time to gather enough information to create a standalone article. Prof.PMarini (talk) 09:40, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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Backflip Studios[edit]
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Previous AfD brought up several interviews, but those are primary sources, and arguments used there do not rise to our current standards. Besides the one SIGCOV Dean Takahashi piece brought up in the previous AfD, it appears to fail WP:NCORP with just trivial mentions and announcements of their closure. Merge to Hasbro perhaps? ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:38, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Hasbro , since the firm was acquired by Hasbro and the purchase and its subsequent closing were mentioned on that page. Prof.PMarini (talk) 12:15, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to "Hasbro" as suggested seems fine. Oaktree b (talk) 00:22, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Evil-Lyn[edit]
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No evidence that this is notable per BEFORE. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 14:53, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep There appears to be enough sourcing, and the nomination statement doesn't engage with what there is. There are multiple CBR references, but there appear to be enough RS to meet GNG, and the burden of BEFORE is on the nominator to show how what's already in the article does not. Jclemens (talk) 16:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, this just me; but its only a 2 low quality situational Valnet sources [4] [5] in the article + this source from before and for me it isn't enough yet for GNG, due to the source quality. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 20:06, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Per Wikipedia:VALNET, which is also cited at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, Valnet sources do not contribute to notability in discussions such as these. As all of these are VALNET, there is no notability displayed right now. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:26, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are no less than five non-Valnet online sources and one magazine source listed. The above does not constitute a source analysis. Jclemens (talk) 22:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- -The Los Angeles Times source is merely a one sentence mention of Linda Gary voicing her. Same deal for the Polygon source, except with a different VA.
- -The San Francisco Chronicle source is a plot summary overview of her character
- -The MTV Link is broken, so I cannot view it. I cannot view the SFX sources either.
- -The HashtagTV source doesn't seem to even mention her? The source also doesn't seem reliable, and even then is only verifying that she'll appear in an upcoming production.
- There's not even commentary or dev info here- at best there's two sources verifying VAs, which is not enough to pass the GNG bar. Nom seems to have done a BEFORE, and a brief BEFORE didn't yield much for me, either. Do note if I've missed anything, but this seems to be a rather minor character with very little additional sourcing to back up any substance. Ref count is not equal to notability. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 04:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- I fixed the MTV link so it works. https://www.mtv.com/news/jat6pt/masters-of-the-universe-classics-faceless-one-review Each to search for the title of something and the name of the source to find it. Dream Focus 09:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, but MTV link is broken again; all links to mtv.com archives seem intentionally broken, but wayback may have a copy of it. Regardless, the SFX source has still not been dealt with. Jclemens (talk) 07:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I fixed the MTV link so it works. https://www.mtv.com/news/jat6pt/masters-of-the-universe-classics-faceless-one-review Each to search for the title of something and the name of the source to find it. Dream Focus 09:20, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- There are no less than five non-Valnet online sources and one magazine source listed. The above does not constitute a source analysis. Jclemens (talk) 22:03, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe characters. I don't have the time to go through and search for sources myself to form an opinion on notability, but this is the obvious WP:Alternative to deletion which preserves the article in the history for possible future use and I am pretty sure something from here can improve the corresponding section at the target. Daranios (talk) 15:07, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Article is definitely in a pretty bad state, but Evil-Lyn is one of the most significant characters in the franchise. Given the presence of MOTU: Revelation, a couple of sources do exist pertaining to Lena Headey's portrayal of the character; interviews and reviews. From some research I've done, although critics from the 1980s don't seem to bring up Meg Foster often when discussing the live-action film, retrospective reviews do somewhat often single her out for praise. The article itself may not show it, but sources and coverage of Evil-Lyn do exist.--PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:47, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, I don't know what I should respond to this. This looks like WP:THEREMUSTBESOURCES argument somehow. Interview sources are primary and does not help GNG; same with Valnet sources. 🍕Boneless Pizza!🍕 (🔔) 00:23, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Per above, interviews count as primary. Additionally, could you please cite some of these sources you're referring to? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 00:56, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- Interviews may count as primary, but depending on the other/surrounding writeup may well count as independent RSes contributing to notability. Jclemens (talk) 07:09, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per the claims of @Jclemens: and @PanagiotisZois:. --Rtkat3 (talk) 23:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to List of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe characters as stated by user:Daranios. Significant coverage only comes from CBR, a questionable source according to WP:VALNET, and the wikis for He-Man MOTU, but these are tertiary sources that either do not cite references or just makes circular references to articles within that wiki. Not notable for a separate article at this time.Prof.PMarini (talk) 14:13, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge the few sourced sentences to List of He-Man and the Masters of the Universe characters#Evil-Lyn, which already seems pretty balanced. Real-world info on animated characters will be quite hard to come by, so better develop this in the character list until it potentially hits WP:SPINOUT quality. – sgeureka t•c 10:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The sourcing is just about sufficient. Cortador (talk) 11:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Przemysław Potocki[edit]
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV for WP:BLPS. In my opinion, its not notable enough to be on Wikipedia. Normanhunter2 (talk) 17:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: WP:ATD is a redirect to Potocki family. Curbon7 (talk) 23:42, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to his father Antoni Potocki (1780–1850) to which Przemysław's mother also redirects. Oppose redirecting to Potocki family, which I assume is for notable entries (although I see one non-linked entry). Also, neither his father nor son who have standalone pages, have entries in the Potocki family. Jay 💬 00:36, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Delete (although not on BLP grounds for a subject who purportedly died in 1847). Not finding any sources to pass WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)Procedural keep on grounds of nominator being a banned sockpuppet with a pattern of disruptive AfD nominations. (I stand by my earlier !vote but would rather see it nominated by an editor in good standing.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:42, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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Uplift Heights Preparatory[edit]
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I found nothing that shows the notability of this school. SL93 (talk) 18:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - fails WP:NSCHOOL, nothing better to be found on web search than the non - RS source on the article. No good redirect target. 4.37.252.50 (talk) 19:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
List of Canadian women government ministers[edit]
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Poorly maintained and deeply-context deficient list with significant maintainability problems. For starters, it just indiscriminately lists women in one common omnibus list, regardless of whether they served in a federal or provincial/territorial cabinet, which isn't particularly helpful -- if there's any value to this, it would be far better served by either splitting the list up into separate subsections for each individual government, or actually creating full standalone spinoff lists for each individual government, for clarity of context, because federal and provincial/territorial cabinets are different beasts.
For another thing, it's actually missing far more names than it's including -- a quick WP:AWB comparison between this list and Category:Women government ministers of Canada found 326 women in the category who are not in this list, compared to just 135 women who are in both places.
This list hasn't been updated with any new names since 2017, so no woman who joined a Canadian government cabinet in the past seven years has ever been added here at all, and even in 2017 it already wasn't particularly complete, because the creator basically aimed for at-the-time comprehensiveness only for the federal and Ontario cabinets, and bunked off nearly the entire rest of the country.
In other words, this list is deeply incomplete, and isn't organized in a way that would actually be helpful or valuable to a reader -- and since we already have Category:Women government ministers of Canada as it is, it's not entirely clear that it would be worth the time investment to actually fix this list. I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody actually is willing to put in that time, but it's not serving readers to hold onto a deeply incomplete and poorly organized version that isn't actually being repaired. Bearcat (talk) 18:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Patrick Carney. Liz Read! Talk! 03:56, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Audio Eagle Records[edit]
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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. It's mentioned in a few interviews with Carney, and there's this very short article on Cleveland Scene about it. A possible alternative to deletion is a merge/redirect to Patrick Carney or The Black Keys. toweli (talk) 16:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge into Patrick Carney. Option to keep if more sources are found. Why is this at AfD at all? Chubbles (talk) 16:21, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Patrick Carney, then delete to prevent restoration. Absolutely fails WP:NCORP. The suggested target is also tarnished by public relations editing activity, so that page needs to be carefully scrutinized for potential GNG fail. Graywalls (talk) 01:54, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Patrick Carney: Merge? I don't see merging coming when the article doesn't meet WP:GNG. Since it reads, "The recording studio is used solely for Carney's productions.", redirect to the founder's article. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:49, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Oleksandr Komarov (businessman)[edit]
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The person is not notable; highly promo article; sources are about companies nor the person; 鲁纳娄于 (talk) 09:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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- The person is notable, he meets WP:BIO — he is a CEO of the biggest mobile operator of Ukraine for many years and has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the person. He also has several awards and honours — Head the best leaders ranking according to Forbes Ukraine, Lead Ideal Managers (a ranking of the telecom industry's best executives), he made it into the top 10 executives of Ukraine, top 20 most successful leaders of Ukrainian companies and many others. --Perohanych (talk) 17:57, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
Comment.Keep. The page reads pretty much as his personal CV, but there are numerous sources (primarily in Ukrainian) with non-trivial coverage of the person. Probably passes WP:GNG. My very best wishes (talk) 17:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)- Delete: Per nom. WP:MILL business person. No WP:SIGCOV to meet WP:BASIC or WP:ANYBIO. No SNGs apply here. C F A 💬 16:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
I agree with this. My very best wishes (talk) 16:34, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please find some examples of WP:SIGCOV:
- See also 17,000+ results of Google Search in Ukrainian
- Komarov is really No 1 business person in Ukraine --Perohanych (talk) 11:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed. My very best wishes (talk) 18:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete none of the sources are deep enough or independent enough to establish the person's notability. The article's author does not understand what reliable sources are. The page is REFBOMBED and contains only passing, routine mentions. There are no good, reliable sources. Profiles on Forbes are not reliable at all, nor are press releases. --182.53.28.77 (talk) 09:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) please adhere to this guideline and learn how to spot paid or superficial news from deep media coverage 182.53.28.77 (talk) 09:06, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- But mentiones sources are not paid or superficial news! They do contain an in-depth analysis of the person. It is not just a profile on Forbes, it is a profile in connection with the fact that Forbes recognized Komarov as the No. 1 person among businessmen in the whole country! --Perohanych (talk) 13:37, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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The result was Speedy Keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Let'srun (talk) 23:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Ed Doyle (American football)[edit]
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC #5. I have searched but did not find WP:SIGCOV about him. The search is complicated as the name is common. For example, this is another (slightly older) Edward J. Doyle, who also coincidentally attended Canisius. Cbl62 (talk) 17:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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(edit conflict) Died in Morocco aged 37? BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)- Guessing it was confusing with the other Doyle per above comment. PFR says he died in Canada in 1997, aged 91. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- That seems to be the answer. Cbl62 (talk) 17:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Having figured out the Doyle who died in 1997 is the one we're discussing, he turns out to have been a prominent sailor (aka Bud Doyle) and received significant coverage, including an in-depth staff-written obit at The Buffalo News. See e.g. [6] and [7]. Also, FWIW, the obit does discuss his NFL career. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Withdrawn. I can't read it without subscription but I trust you that it's SIGCOV. Cbl62 (talk) 18:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Cbl62: You should be able to read it here: [8]. BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- No doubt about it. That's SIGCOV. Cbl62 (talk) 18:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Katlego Malebane[edit]
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No notability for this child sportsperson, lack of sources that are significant and secondary. Geschichte (talk) 17:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Al Bu Sa'ad[edit]
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This article fails WP:GNG and is entirely made up of WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. None of the sources mention "Al Bu Sa'ad". Additionally, there is a "Culture and cuisine" section which seems to have no relation to the topic of the article. Skitash (talk) 16:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- The Culture and cuisine section refers to the culture and cuisine of the Al Bu Sa’ad tribe. Additionally, the sources refer to the Isaaq tribe which is a parent tribe of the Al Bu Sa’ad. If you have any improvements you want to add please add it in edits rather than nominate the whole article for deletion.
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Road Safety World Series[edit]
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No evidence of WP:SUSTAINED coverage to pass WP:GNG. This event and all of its (so far 2) seasons falls foul of WP:NOTINHERITED- just because some notable people played in the event, this doesn't make the event itself notable, as it's a clear GNG failure. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom. AA (talk) 16:45, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Per nom and this league has not sustained and has not attracted noteworthy significant attention for notability. Two seasons were played with the last in 2022. Fails WP:GNG. RangersRus (talk) 13:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Legends League Cricket[edit]
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No evidence of WP:SUSTAINED coverage to pass WP:GNG. This event and all of it's (so far 2) seasons falls foul of WP:NOTINHERITED- just because some notable people played in the event, this doesn't make the event itself notable, as it's a clear GNG failure. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom. Fails WP:GNG, WP:OFFCRIC, and WP:EVENT. Its whole existence is based around WP:INHERITED and has no WP:LASTING. AA (talk) 16:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- matches of this league are covered by sources like ESPNcricinfo, etc. Vikas265 (talk) 17:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- So what? Cricinfo has scorecard coverage of lots of matches, that doesn't make them notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vikas265:. Cricinfo has scorecards of early 2000s club matches, doesn't make the leagues notable. Most of what you introduce just isn't notable. AA (talk) 13:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- So what? Cricinfo has scorecard coverage of lots of matches, that doesn't make them notable. Joseph2302 (talk) 06:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- matches of this league are covered by sources like ESPNcricinfo, etc. Vikas265 (talk) 17:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Nico Schoof[edit]
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WP:BLP of a political figure, not properly sourced as passing WP:NPOL. Firstly, notability is not inherited, so he isn't automatically notable just because of who his brother is -- but in terms of establishing his own standalone notability, the only claim even being attempted here is that he's been a chair of political committees, with absolutely no indication that he's ever held a noteworthy political office, and there's only one footnote being cited to support the article, which is not enough to get him over WP:GNG all by itself.
As I'm not particularly knowledgeable about Dutch politics, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with more expertise in the area can expand the article with a stronger notability claim and better sourcing for it, but nothing stated here as of right now is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from needing more than just being somebody's brother. Bearcat (talk) 16:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, can't find significant coverage of the subject. Ednabrenze (talk) 19:38, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Schoof was the mayor of FOUR different Dutch municipalities, among these Alphen aan den Rijn, a city of more than 100,000 inhabitants. The fact that his brother just became prime minister of the Netherlands SHOULD NOT be held against him. Family members of famous people can also be notable! gidonb (talk) 23:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Mayors aren't automatically notable just for being mayors either, not even in cities with over 100,000 inhabitants. The notability bar for a mayor is the ability to write and source a substantive article about his political impact — specific things he did as mayor, specific projects he spearheaded as mayor, specific effects his mayoralty had on the development of the city, and on and so forth — and just throwing the word "mayor" around is not dropping any mics on anything if that type of substantive content isn't present in the article to legitimize it. Bearcat (talk) 20:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was speedy keep. Unacceptably worded nomination. (non-admin closure) Geschichte (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Wyn Beauty[edit]
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MaximumRespect! MrFixer200 (talk) 15:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Flexcon[edit]
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Appears to be a non-notable business, article created for promotional purposes. -- Beland (talk) 17:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete, fails WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. Ednabrenze (talk) 19:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Already PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion. Liz Read! Talk! 03:59, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Terwin (corporation)[edit]
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The Terwin corporation doesn't meet NCROP - no reliable independent of the subject sources; advertisement, Spam#Advertisements_masquerading_as_articles 鲁纳娄于 (talk) 09:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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- The corporation is notable, it meets WP:ORGCRIT— it has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the corporation. It is one of the biggest corporations in Ukraine with $1,6 billion assets and $1,7 billion revenue (2023). Before the Russian invasion, the revenue exceeded $2 billion. Nowadays, the corporation is building logistics hubs in four regions of Ukraine (Odesa, Lviv, Dnipro, Kyiv) with a total investment of more than $500 million. Of course, this and other activity of the corporation has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable independent sources. --Perohanych (talk) 15:59, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- If so, share please 3 best sources meeting WP:ORGCRIT 167.86.184.60 (talk) 16:40, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- https://eba.com.ua/en/member/tovarystvo-z-obmezhenoyu-vidpovidalnistyu-tervin-grup/
- https://forbes.ua/news/spivvlasnik-eva-ta-varus-shostak-obednue-17-kompaniy-u-korporatsiyu-tervin-forbes-diznavsya-podrobitsi-27102023-16942
- https://biz.liga.net/ua/all/fmcg/novosti/spivvlasnyk-eva-stvoryv-korporatsiiu-tervin
- https://biz.nv.ua/ukr/economics/ruslan-shostak-pro-vartist-biznesu-vuhatogo-nyanyu-spivpracyu-z-armoyu-novini-ukrajini-50356744.html
- https://interfax.com.ua/news/investments/946886.html
- All of them can be considered as secondary, independent of the subject, and with quite significant coverage of the corporation.
- I am not sure if it is an extra argument, but simple Google Search gives 3800+ results --Perohanych (talk) 21:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep: per WP:NCORP. There is enough WP:SIGCOV in WP:RS. Most is in Russian or Ukrainian. See Google news. C F A 💬 16:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete none of the sources are deep enough or independent enough to establish the company notability per WP:NCORP. The article's author does not understand what reliable sources are. Google News is not a measure of notability. Every source should be analyzed, and I have done this, concluding that all the sources met in the page and here provided by the author, are only superficial mentions or routine announcements with no single source providing in-depth, independent media coverage. --182.53.28.77 (talk) 09:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well. Let's analyse every mentioned source:
- The text of European Business Association is entirely devoted to Tervin and provides enough about the size of the corporation.
- This text of Forbes is entirely devoted to Tervin. It contains an in-depth analysis of the corporation's composition, assets and revenue, as well as information about the founders
- This text of Liga is entirely devoted to Tervin. It contains an in-depth analysis of the corporation's history
- This text of New Voice is entirely devoted to Tervin. It contains an in-depth analysis of the largest companies that make up the corporation
- This text of Interfax is entirely devoted to co-operation of Tervin and the state Agency on investments.
- All the media are independent. There are much more sources --Perohanych (talk) 13:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well. Let's analyse every mentioned source:
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2024 Caribbean Queen's Tournament[edit]
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The only sources that cover this friendly football tournament are run-of-the-mill announcements that the tournament will occur and reporting of the results. This tournament meets neither WP:NEVENT nor WP:GNG. voorts (talk/contributions) 15:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. There is some coverage that is more than run of the mill. The topic may move in the direction of notability for the tournament series, not for the editions. The proposed is an annual edition, however, and it is early for such historic perspective. So delete. gidonb (talk) 22:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete not enough significant coverage to meet WP:GNG. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:23, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
MTA SZTAKI Laboratory of Parallel and Distributed Systems[edit]
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The whole article currently relies on primary sources. Also, I am not convinced that a research laboratory of a university and/or a research institute needs a separate article, since there are no major achievements for this. All relevant information can be easily migrated to MTA SZTAKI; therefore, the article can be either completely deleted or, more suitably, merged with MTA SZTAKI. Chiserc (talk) 15:49, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Manufactured Music (label)[edit]
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Can be merged to Black Hole Recordings or Manufactured Superstars with little information. The label doesn't show any significant importance for it's own article, neither there are any sources. 𝓡𝔂𝓭𝓮𝔁 12:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- I just put some sources on there earlier. Dogperson160 (talk) 22:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment this is a new article that is still being worked on, but I see no reason why it shouldn't redirect to Manufactured Superstars. I removed the list of 160 songs from the label as clearly excessive. Walsh90210 (talk) 22:53, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- I just put it back. This wasn’t the only article about a music label to have all of the releases on it. Dogperson160 (talk) 23:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I don't believe any record label article on Wikipedia should list all of their releases – that contravenes WP:NOTDATABASE and isn't what Wikipedia is for. The focus should be on a discussion of the label. Richard3120 (talk) 15:14, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- I just put it back. This wasn’t the only article about a music label to have all of the releases on it. Dogperson160 (talk) 23:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Merge into Manufactured Superstars. Nothing wrong with Wikipedia providing discographical information, which is encyclopedic, but the roster of artists for this label is underwhelming and I don't see a strong case that it needs a separate article from its founding members. Chubbles (talk) 16:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect and delete history prevent future public relations activity. Target is barely notable. Graywalls (talk) 03:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect after merging whatever is considered appropriate into Manufactured Superstars, this company doesn't meet our notability critieria, insufficient sources for GNG/NCORP. HighKing++ 16:58, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
1794 in Ukraine[edit]
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GNG Martintalk 21:53, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Look at Template:Years in Ukraine, or any for any other nation. I link to anything notable enough to have its own article, so its a valid navigational list. There are also two references there, one for the Encyclopedia of Ukraine, and the other from Harvard University Press for the Harvard Ukrainian Research Institute. Dream Focus 22:01, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - Has encyclopedic value and sources exist that meet GNG. Question to nominator, Martinc021 did you do a BEFORE prior to nominated this? Netherzone (talk) 23:13, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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I withdraw my nomination --Martintalk 02:23, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. While "GNG" is not a valid nomination by any stretch, Ukraine was not a country at the time. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2000 in Kosovo. Also, a category would do a fine job of containing what little information there is here. Geschichte (talk) 03:58, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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Stuart Tower[edit]
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I do not think that these claims are enough to confer notability. Otherwise, its simply a very unremarkable block of flats, with all that I could find being 'property' listings & the like.TheLongTone (talk) 13:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC) TheLongTone (talk) 13:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Thanks. I think it was Twinkle, altho I do have fat fingers.TheLongTone (talk) 14:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've now deleted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stuart Tower as a G6 so we stop E/Cing all over the place. @TheLongTone you did nothing wrong. I think Twinkle hiccuped. Star Mississippi 14:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- delete Heavily WP:COATRACKing a set of murders/suspicious deaths, but I'm pretty sure the building didn't kill them. Mangoe (talk) 16:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Nothing notable about this building; the article is a WP:COATRACK for WP:RUMORS about certain of its occupants. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:54, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Pontiac, Indiana[edit]
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So what do you do when the only substantive source basically says that this place never really amounted to anything, i.e., it isn't really notable? That's what the county history says: the place was laid out on speculation, but in the end the railroad either picked the more northerly route it has now, o wasn't built at all (the text doesn't make this clear). What we're left with is a crossroads with some houses and "Carbon Church", which I can't find much about besides a FB page. Also, the location given is just wrong. Older topos put the label in the right place, but round about 2013 both it and Carbon are shown about 1/2 mile west of their actual locations; they fixed Carbon but not Pontiac. Mangoe (talk) 13:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Carbon, Indiana. There does seems to have been a small settlement there, but this 1915 map simply identifies the site as "South Carbon" (which makes sense since it's less than half a mile from the town). The few other old maps I found that showed it as a populated site didn't name it at all, and none mentioned Pontiac. Given the site's lack of notability, the presence of "Carbon Church", the fact that it's right on the edge of the larger town, etc., I don't think it merits its own article. I recommend redirecting to Carbon, Indiana. I can also add a brief mention of the site to the Carbon article. ╠╣uw [talk] 16:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Battle of Maikop[edit]
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Likely an unedited machine translation. No significant coverage in reliable sources - the existing citations are all primary sources, helping to explain the army-size exaggerations. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:59, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Poppy Morgan[edit]
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How has this survived the raised expectations around porn performers. The sourcing is well below GNG for a BLP. Spartaz Humbug! 12:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: a few years ago, a group of users has managed to create a consensus that states that pornographic entertainers are basically not notable for what they do (their awards do not count, the coverage from the industry does not count, etc.). OK. But this actress might meet GNG: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/hull-porn-star-poppy-morgan-2877489 ; https://www.anorak.co.uk/377943/celebrities/hull-mps-want-page-3-banned-but-the-official-brochure-says-poppy-morgan-is-part-of-the-city-culture.html ; https://www.expressandstar.com/news/2006/11/23/porn-star-to-teach-dancers/ as these sources mention that her notability as porn star exists outside WP and outside the industry. At least, that's how I see things. And I consider her notable enough to have a page. If any ATD exists, feel free to redirect. Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for proving my point with non reliable sources Spartaz Humbug! 04:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Thank you for providing a link showing these sources are non-reliable according to a clear consensus. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:25, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for proving my point with non reliable sources Spartaz Humbug! 04:39, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Seoul Tourism Awards[edit]
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Non-notable award which effectively serves the purpose of rewarding people who promote tourism in Seoul. The awards don't seem to have any significant coverage in third-party sources aside from trivial mentions and promotional pieces. There are no mainspace pages that link to the article either, apart from List of awards and nominations received by NewJeans. The article has only had a few edits made since its creation 15 years ago, mostly by bots. Aydoh8 (talk | contribs) 11:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep because of notability. I encourage you to search for articles about the award in Korean; the award has a ton of non trivial and non (at least it seems like) promotional coverage.
- [9][10][11][12]
- I can look up more upon request.
- Also I'd argue the lack of activity and links is much more secondary to coverage. 211.43.120.242 (talk) 12:08, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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Eve Vorley[edit]
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BLP1E. Football club directors are not inherently notable and by coverage this is a pure BLP1E as the appointment of a porn/glamour performer caused some noise at the time. Beyond that, nothing. Not by her real name or alias Spartaz Humbug! 12:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Fails WP:GNG, WP:ENT, and WP:CREATIVE. No significant coverage of her as a former glamour model, pornographic actress, nor film director. She being an English football club director is considered to be WP:ONEEVENT. — YoungForever(talk) 15:54, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to David_Sullivan_(businessman)#Personal_life: where she is mentioned; merge what's necessary. Not opposed to keep, given existing coverage -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect as above. GiantSnowman 15:41, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Rocky Flintoff[edit]
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Non-notable cricketer, who hasn't played at first-class/List A/Twenty20 level. Under-19 cricketers are deemed non-notable and most of his coverage seems to come as a result of his famous father, so WP:NOTINHERITED applies. An article can be created once he makes his senior debut. AA (talk) 12:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep passes GNG easily. Do we have an SNG being abused to deny wider community norms here? Where does it say under 19 cricketers are always non notable. This is no ordinary cricketer here but the son of a cricket icon. Easily passes notability standards and his coverage reflects his own efforts and not his Dad’s. Spartaz Humbug! 12:57, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- So basically your whole argument is WP:INHERITED. PS: I don't abuse anything on this site. WP:NCRIC says:
"...cricketers who have played at the highest domestic level..."
. AA (talk) 16:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)- And GNG requires 2 sources and outranks NCRIC Spartaz Humbug! 04:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- No response on WP:NOTINHERITED, which this clearly is... AA (talk) 13:37, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- And GNG requires 2 sources and outranks NCRIC Spartaz Humbug! 04:38, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- So basically your whole argument is WP:INHERITED. PS: I don't abuse anything on this site. WP:NCRIC says:
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- Delete Unclear that he passes GNG - County 2nd XI would not generally make GNG, no major honours (per WP:SPORTSPERSON). Of citations, overwhelming majority are framed in terms of his father (WP:NOTINHERITED) - e.g. "Inside Freddie Flintoff's life with his adorable family...", Biggest test for Flintoff's talented sons...", "Freddie Flintoff's son, Rocky,...", "Andrew Flintoff's son makes...". He may well progress beyond county cricket into first class & intl - but he hasn't yet WP:LAGGING. Hemmers (talk) 14:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Widespread coverage across the world in the BBC, Sky Sports, The Times, Malaysia Sun, Times of India, News18, The Independent, The Telegraph, Wisden, ESPNCricinfo and the list goes on. Yes the articles often mention his father in the headline or the article themselves but that is going to be the case his entire life unless he manages to totally surpass what his father achieved which is a high bar to set. The articles themselves are about him, not his father, and as such he easily passes the coverage test. Shrug02 20:48, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. A lot of convenient ignoring of WP:NOTINHERITED going on here. If his father was Joe Bloggs, a plumber from Cleethorpes, there wouldn't be any coverage. I might start adding club cricketers with loads of coverage in county newspapers. AA (talk) 21:31, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Julio Foolio[edit]
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Fails WP:BASIC, WP:ANYBIO, and WP:MUSICBIO. No indication of awards or charted songs. No notable biographical details prior to his death. Magnolia677 (talk) 10:49, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete we don't need every ganga rapper who have been shot dead. Not notable enough — Iadmc♫talk 11:30, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- if you actually do research you would now he has bean a notable artist in Florida since about 2018 2600:8805:D1B:7500:1322:CAB:414A:D0A0 (talk) 19:50, 27 June 2024 (UTC) - — 2600:8805:D1B:7500:1322:CAB:414A:D0A0 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Delete: Doesn't pass musical notability; coverage is only about his death. I gave up after 20 pages in Gnews trying to find mentions of him before his passing. Simply not a notable performer. Oaktree b (talk) 16:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Rapper is notable. Particularly within Florida. Jattlife121 (talk) 20:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Delete Fails WP:NMUSIC. Another no-name rapper whose death has made more headlines than his (non-notable) music. Dead rappers always make headlines no matter how obscure they are.Changing vote to keep after performing article cleanup. There is considerable coverage about the subject, but it's mainly about his role in the Jville gang wars while his actual music career is virtually irrelevant. Would also like to see primary SoundCloud citations replaced with reliable sources. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 21:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)- Agreed. We need to keep this up. STGInfo (talk) 14:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Perhaps this article should be about his death? It got major coverage in many major outlets. Thriley (talk) 22:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - Rapper is notable. Particularly within Florida especially in Jacksonville and through the south. He has many notations in different news articles. Foolio is also is featured on Pimp of the Nation album by Natalac Featuring international recording artist sean paul, grammy award winning Project Pat, Three 6 Mafia Member La Chat, Pastor Troy, Ying Yang Twins, Keak da Sneak to name a few who all are very Notable rappers Yameka (talk) 03:48, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- His death is certainly covered but his music and life? We need sources for these.@Yameka — Iadmc♫talk 06:46, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
Sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yameka (talk • contribs) 23:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- https://www.allmusic.com/album/pimp-of-the-nation-mw0003174654
- https://www.allmusic.com/album/pimp-of-the-nation-mw0003174654#credits
- https://www.makinitmag.com/updates/natalac/2018/03/djs-says-natalac-pimp-nation-lp-classic-material
- https://g.co/kgs/m6zgJcJ
- Also there are Radio Edit and Explicit versions released Pimp of the Nation & Pimp of the Nation (Radio Edit)
- This project was released Presidents Day 2018 aka feb 19th 2018 in hard copies throughout the south and online on all platforms Yameka (talk) 23:51, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Sources
- News Article .. First Coast News contacted Jacksonville Rapper Natalac and got his and the sheriff of Jacksonville input on Julio Foolio outcome. Natalac with his decades of experince with Hip Hop & younger rappers he worked with through messages through music.. he chose Foolio for his 11th Studio Album with grammy award winners etc. with their song Bridge This Gap a song to send a positive message. On natalac Pimp of the Nation. going by this article
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbEiSj5yhHA
- https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/local/jacksonville-rapper-natalac-experience-with-foolio/77-6c775f01-b3bf-4232-8611-36190b187882 Yameka (talk) 00:20, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Yameka Don't double or triple-vote, please. Bremps... 04:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- ok i fixed that. Good day Yameka (talk) 07:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Yameka Don't double or triple-vote, please. Bremps... 04:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Artist is fails notability guidelines. There's barely any coverage I could find apart from his death.
I do think we could have an article about his death like @Thriley suggested, though.DaCrashy (T.C.) 16:34, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Please see WP:ONEEVENT. --Magnolia677 (talk) 18:20, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Interesting how all the “keep” votes are repeating the “he’s notable because he’s from Florida” mantra, and verbatim to boot (“Rapper is notable. Particularly within Florida”). Florida does not represent the entire country. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 19:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Or indeed the world! — Iadmc♫talk 04:05, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. While BIO1E and 1E are extremely important these don't apply here. Wikipedians apply these too much after violent deaths. In a way this makes sense. It's an unusual feature. Still, we should work by policy and guidelines. The keep is by GNG. gidonb (talk) 15:25, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:GNG. Foolio was the subject of multiple independent coverage even before his death. In 2019, Vulture.com, in reviewing Never Wanted Fame, wrote the mixtape "establishes Foolio as one of the most gripping, irresistible rappers working today." In 2021, Vice credited Foolio, along with Yungeen Ace, as playing a leading role in popularizing rap versions of pop songs. His feuds with other rappers have been covered by Atlanta Black Star [13] among others, and he received significant coverage in a 2021 Complex.com article on the Jacksonville rap community. [14]. Police blotter news articles about his shootings and death can fill in the gaps for a concise, neutral, and fair biography that is fully compliant with all WP policies. --Animalparty! (talk) 17:56, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no point in creating an article for someone who was irrelevant as a rapper when alive and a gangster 103.75.195.51 (talk) 02:43, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep The article has been significantly improved since nomination. Passes GNG. Thriley (talk) 04:22, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've spent the past hour removing all the original research and unsourced content shovelled in yesterday as part of the "improvement". Magnolia677 (talk) 10:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I still think he meets GNG based on the material Animalparty collected. Thriley (talk) 15:45, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- I've spent the past hour removing all the original research and unsourced content shovelled in yesterday as part of the "improvement". Magnolia677 (talk) 10:46, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Rapper is notable and article has been improved a lot. Elektrinhooo (talk) 09:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep worked with famous producer Zaytoven, viral diss tracks, multiple articles and videos covering Foolio and the jacksonville gang war. Tabratic (talk) 14:40, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
Delete: Not notable enough and makes the same music as any gangsta rapper— Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.75.195.51 (talk) 18:54, 30 June 2024 (UTC)- Comment every gangsta rapper talks about the same stuff in their music. most of what’s popular today is “gangsta rap” Tabratic (talk) 19:23, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment that doesnot mean they should have their own page especially when his songs were not even blowin upp 103.75.195.51 (talk) 04:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Tabratic and 103.75.195.51: Please do not double vote. Bremps... 18:20, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Duplicate votes struck or modified as comments. 💥Casualty • Hop along. • 22:34, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Tabratic and 103.75.195.51: Please do not double vote. Bremps... 18:20, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment that doesnot mean they should have their own page especially when his songs were not even blowin upp 103.75.195.51 (talk) 04:54, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment every gangsta rapper talks about the same stuff in their music. most of what’s popular today is “gangsta rap” Tabratic (talk) 19:23, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Enough coverage to establish notability. Fair for me to say passes GNG-- Robertjamal12 ~🔔 16:29, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Keep: Received coverage in several sources considered reliable by WP:MUSIC/SOURCE prior to his passing. Here are some examples: AllHipHop, HotNewHipHop, HipHopDx This could further be supported by a WP:GNG table. Célestin Denis (talk) 00:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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Paulius Stankevicius[edit]
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No indication of importance. I have a degree, I founded a small consultancy, I wrote some articles, I wrote a book. BrigadierG (talk) 10:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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KeepComment: I found several personal interviews from established media outlets like Forbes India[15] and GQ[16]. The subject person's business career has also received a certain level of coverage. (See Fortune[17], Forbes[18], and Yahoo! Finance[19]) —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 13:17, 1 July 2024 (UTC)- Q&A type interviews are primary sources, Forbes India and Fortune are sponsored content, Forbes Georgia and Yahoo are press releases so all of those are also primary and not independent. S0091 (talk) 14:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strike my vote first. I do not believe those interviews are primary sources in the first place since it addresses the subject person's company and the trade industry as a whole, so I did not identify them as PS per WP:IV. But I had no idea that the Forbes India interview is sponsored content, and I agree that paid advertorials should be considered non-independent. My rationale was mostly based on the two interviews, but with one deemed non-independent and one with disputed views, I no longer possess a strong rationale to go for keep. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- I conducted another round of searching but did not find any other usable sources. Thanks to S0091 for pointing out that the Forbes and Fortune sources are non-independent paid advertorials, which I had overlooked. A single GQ interview is not sufficient for passing GNG. Changing my !vote to Delete. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 13:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: none of the sources contribute to WP:GNG as they are either primary such as press releases or interviews, trivial coverage or not reliable such as the Huff Post which was written by a contributor rather than staff. S0091 (talk) 14:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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Open value network[edit]
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Unsourced, term doesn't seem widely used. The article is entirely unreferenced and I can't find any indication it's increased in notability since the previous deletion in 2017. The deletion reasons from then still seem to apply. JaggedHamster (talk) 11:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: per nom. Also a bit promotional in tone but not enough for G11 '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 12:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- delete Besides all the above it reads as though it had been created by a buzz phrase generator. Mangoe (talk) 16:44, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Sajjala Ramakrishna Reddy[edit]
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The article doesn't meet WP:NPOL; WP:GNG
Sajjala Ramakrishna Reddy is an advisor to the Government of Andhra Pradesh during 2019 - 2024, along with more than COUNTLESS others.[1] (Andhra High Court on Role of Advisors; Some of the List of Advisors) Additionally, he is one of the 31 General Secretaries (List of YSRCP secretaries) of the YSR Congress Party. Beyond these roles, there is little of value to add in Wikipedia article, so I propose it for deletion. RWILD✉ 10:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: He's in the media quite often, but not in any articles about him. There's this [20], but not helping notability. Oaktree b (talk) 11:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:NPOL. The degree of significance of the subject and of role as Journalist and politician is not enough to warrant a page on the subject. There is no in-depth significant achievement notable. RangersRus (talk) 12:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- ^ "Andhra Pradesh రాష్ట్రంలో ఎందరు సలహాదారులున్నారు.. ఆరా తీస్తున్న ప్రభుత్వం". Samayam Telugu (in Telugu).
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Vandalism of Stonehenge[edit]
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I nominated a previous version of this page for deletion. The consensus decision was Merge to Just Stop Oil, which was not what I had originally proposed. The Just Stop Oil page does contain a brief summary of the relevant event, but I don't think a full merge has been carried out. Instead, this page has been expanded to cover other instances of vandalism. However, it's still got the infobox and the undue emphasis on the flash-in-the-pan event that prompted the article's creation. I believe this fails WP:COATRACK, and I still think the article should be deleted, possibly with a merger of the relevant bits into Stonehenge, not Just Stop Oil. GenevieveDEon (talk) 08:57, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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List of Women's Premier League (cricket) captains[edit]
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Unnecessary WP:CFORK, and violates WP:NOTDATABASE as almost the entire content of the article is just a copy of the ESPNCricinfo source [21]. Just because the men's IPL has this article (which I also don't necessarily agree with), that doesn't mean this article meets WP:NLIST, as I don't see significant coverage about these captains grouped together in news sources (i.e. not just copies of the table). Joseph2302 (talk) 08:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Per nom. The page does not meet notability guidelines WP:FAILN and WP:NLIST. RangersRus (talk) 12:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: For full transparency, I'm just noting that I mentioned this list was nominated for deletion at the featured list nomination here. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: There are other pages for list of captains as well; see Category:Lists of cricket captains. They have the same sort of sources as well; what difference does it make? Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 11:30, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Most of these are captains of teams, rather than captains at tournaments (apart from BPL and IPL, neither of which seem notable either). Why would we need a list of every captain ever at one competition? Also, WP:OSE applies to this rationale. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- How does CFORK applies here? Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 14:02, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Most of these are captains of teams, rather than captains at tournaments (apart from BPL and IPL, neither of which seem notable either). Why would we need a list of every captain ever at one competition? Also, WP:OSE applies to this rationale. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:51, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Emmanuel Mogenet[edit]
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Was likely created by WP:COI subject. Unclear notability from WP:BIO. Brief mention of subject in RS doesn't pass WP:GNG. Morbidthoughts (talk) 08:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Source analysis: 1. Bilanz (Handelsblatt) is likely sigcov but, as a trade magazine, may be paid. 2. Telegraph has less than one sentence of coverage about him, not sigcov. 3. Le Monde has only quotes, zero sigcov. 4. Wired Italy mentions his name a whopping 15 times, but has no sigcov of him or his biography, only quotes. 5. Le Temps (link is broken, the article can be found here) also only mentions him, no sigcov.
- Since this is a COI creation I will not bother to search for other sources. If another editor with more patience than me finds enough new sources to meet the GNG, ping me and I'll reconsider. Toadspike [Talk] 14:39, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete As per what's written above, especially the bit about COI creation MaskedSinger (talk) 15:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Kosmic Free Music Foundation[edit]
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I was only able to find mentions and brief descriptions (<100 words) of the subject in reliable sources (such as by searching "filetype:pdf "Kosmic Free Music Foundation" " on Google). The article doesn't link to anything that would establish notability. toweli (talk) 08:00, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- You must not have been on the internet in the mid 1990s. Back then, "reliable sources" would not be covering what they individuals were doing in the online music community. 75.3.240.177 (talk) 04:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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Cruisers Rock Combo[edit]
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Doesn't appear to meet WP:NBAND / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 15:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:43, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Cliff Chenfeld[edit]
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Clearly unnotable. All but one of the sources are about his record company or Kidz Bop. The sole source documenting him is an interview. OhHaiMark (talk) 14:14, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- weak delete: Should be notable with articles such as [22], but I don't find enough to build an article. Oaktree b (talk) 11:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Coverage now in the article is mostly about his business ventures, not about him as a person. Oaktree b (talk) 11:59, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
The Barbarian Group[edit]
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This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 13:33, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete or merger with Cheil Worldwide the parent company of the subject. The subject is not notable to be a stand alone article. Ednabrenze (talk) 11:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Abdullah Al-Jumah[edit]
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I couldn't find out if this person, a Saudi author is notable as per WP:GNG. Duke of New Gwynedd (talk | contrib.) 08:43, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Steve Helms[edit]
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Fails WP:MUSICIAN. No sources to speak of. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:52, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Gseach brings up his website, a few social media, then off into other people with the same name. What's used in the article now isn't enough, simple directory listings or his charitable foundation (primary). Oaktree b (talk) 12:02, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Ahmer Haider (actor)[edit]
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Recreation of salted title, Ahmer Haider, which has been salted since 2019 due to repeated recreation. Subject does not seem to pass WP:GNG nor WP:NACTOR. CycloneYoris talk! 06:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: I don't find reliable sources with significant coverage of the subject to justify WP:GNG or WP:NACTOR. Additionally, he was not a lead character in any of the listed films. GrabUp - Talk 08:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, passes neither WP:GNG not WP:NACTOR. Sources are mostly paid for and that is evident in the cited sources. Ednabrenze (talk) 11:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. No significant and noteworthy achievement by the subject's role as an actor to warrant a page on Wikipedia. RangersRus (talk) 12:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Birbhum Pharmacy School[edit]
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It fails WP:SCH, no reliable source has been cited Pinakpani (talk) 05:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect and merge anything useful with Maulana Abul Kalam Azad University of Technology. Division of that university — rsjaffe 🗣️ 15:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
Pradum (actor)[edit]
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Fails WP:NACTOR.
Declined drafts: Draft:Pradum Shukla (actor), Draft:Pradum Shukla KH-1 (talk) 04:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was speedy delete per author request. ✗plicit 11:06, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Too Lost (company)[edit]
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Unclear if there's enough independent coverage for WP:NCORP. Previous AfD speedied for copyvio Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Too Lost, also deleted under G12. KH-1 (talk) 04:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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2023 Deans Trophy season[edit]
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Apparently non notable school rugby competition involving only six schools. Mccapra (talk) 03:52, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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KNEE-LD[edit]
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Subject lacks the needed WP:SIGCOV from reliable sources to meet the WP:GNG. A WP:BEFORE search only came up with FCC licenses. Let'srun (talk) 03:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Unfortunately, funny call signs don’t mean reliable sources to be on Wikipedia. Danubeball (talk) 01:16, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
The Last Chancers[edit]
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Lack of notability Revirvlkodlaku (talk) 02:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: There are multiple reviews from reliable sources, including the Guardian, the Sunday Times and the Evening Standard. What is the problem? Toughpigs (talk) 05:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. As Toughpigs points out, the article already includes several reviews from reliable sources, including well-known British newspapers. The nominator should considering withdrawing this AfD. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:46, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
- Potton, Ed (2004-12-18). "Something to bray about - Our pick of the festive TV". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-07-03. Retrieved 2024-07-03.
The article notes: "The Last Chancers began as a Comedy Lab sketch, directed by Stephen Merchant of The Office and starring Buxton and Steve John Shepherd of This Life. Channel 4 later commissioned it as a two-parter, "obviously with Stephen no longer on board because he was too busy winning awards". The result is more mainstream than his previous stuff, but the pop cultural digs are still sharp. The wry observations on in-band politics and musical tribalism, in particular, make you wonder whether Buxton, like his co-writer MacMurray, has a murky past on the gigging circuit."
- Smith, Rupert (2004-12-23). "Rock bottom". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 2024-07-03. Retrieved 2024-07-03.
The review notes: "A new comedy drama about the ups and downs of life in a rock band rings all the right bells, largely because it raises hopes that we might be in for a 21st-century Rock Follies. The Last Chancers (Channel 4, first shown on E4) was not that longed-for event, but it was an agreeable hour that wasn't short of laughs or insight. Writers Tony MacMurray and Adam Buxton have clearly done their time in the lower depths of the music business ..."
- Ridgway, Imogen (2004-12-22). "Last chance saloon for pub rock hopefuls". Evening Standard. Archived from the original on 2024-07-03. Retrieved 2024-07-03.
The review notes: "The ineptitude and staggering self-belief of Buxton's Johnny is bound to draw comparisons with David Brent, but there's also something a little Alan Partridge-y about his desire for fame. The characters of his fellow male band members, alas, have not been developed as much. However, the two female leads, guitarist Liv (Valerie Edmond) and gobby Aussie Kirby (Emma Pierson) are played with confidence and add an extra dimension to what might have been a bloke-centric drama."
- Dugdale, John (2004-12-12). "The Last Chancers - Pick of the day". The Sunday Times. Archived from the original on 2024-07-03. Retrieved 2024-07-03.
The review notes: "Underused on TV since The Crow Road, Edmond is a welcome signing; but the comedy's problem is its hero, who suffers as many humiliations as Brent and Alan Partridge but lacks their compelling and richly imagined awfulness."
- Sutcliffe, Thomas (2004-12-23). "Last night's television: Yes, I'm beginning to see the light - Light Fantastic BBC4 The Last Chancers C4". The Independent. Archived from the original on 2024-07-03. Retrieved 2024-07-03.
The review notes: "The Last Chancers looks a bit like a six-part sitcom that has suffered a rear-end shunt and ended up as a two-part comedy drama. The tone was certainly more sitcom than drama, since Adam Buxton plays the part of Johnny - a white-bread wannabe rocker - with the same slightly arch, sketch-like performance he used on The Adam and Joe Show. Looking at my notes, I can't find a single line that would withstand quotation in cold print as an example of something funny, but that doesn't do any kind of justice to what was a rather engaging comedy."
- Starkey, Gabrielle (2004-12-11). "The Last Chancers - Multichannel Choice". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-07-03. Retrieved 2024-07-03.
The review notes: "There are a lot of influences in here, most notably The Office and Spinal Tap, but it's well observed and written and (all too rare in comedy nowadays) funny. In particular, the characters are all well-defined and instantly recognisable without being total cliches."
- Potton, Ed (2004-12-18). "Something to bray about - Our pick of the festive TV". The Times. Archived from the original on 2024-07-03. Retrieved 2024-07-03.
KTLD-CD[edit]
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Subject does not have the needed WP:SIGCOV to meet the WP:GNG. This one technically survived AfD last year in a bundled nomination but that was more about other stations which were included there than this one specifically. Could be redirected either to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp. or List of Three Angels Broadcasting Network affiliates. Let'srun (talk) 02:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to List of stations owned by Innovate Corp.: Like with far too many other HC2/Innovate stations, it's been nothing but national services and no significant coverage (nor the real prospect of any) in the station's 25-30 year history. (The various secular channels that HC2/Innovate has added since taking over from 3ABN ownership are enough to tip me in that direction for the all-that's-needed-here {{R to list entry}}.) WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 04:33, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Innovate corp stations no sources, no article momentDanubeball (talk) 01:14, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Cloud Constellation[edit]
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Fails to establish notability under WP:NCORP. References almost exclusively covers planned partnerships with more notable companies. Brandon (talk) 02:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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Haziq Mu'iz[edit]
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No notability for this footballer who played 24 minutes in the Malaysian league. Sources are databases or transfer statements. Geschichte (talk) 02:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:18, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Hamizul Izaidi[edit]
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No notability for this footballer who played 61 minutes in the Malaysian league. Sources are databases or transfer statements. Geschichte (talk) 02:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 03:19, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 15:40, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. Thanks to participants who quickly responded and presented sources. I hope they find their way into the article. Liz Read! Talk! 04:05, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
Heartland Museum of Military Vehicles[edit]
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Fails WP:NORG; written like an advertisement. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 04:17, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment if this does somehow survive deletion I am able to get some photos for the article. I haven't looked much into the Museum itself so I can't currently comment on it's notability. ― Blaze WolfTalkblaze__wolf 04:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - This is not written like an advertisement, instead it needs improvement, not deletion. I'm appalled to see this nomiated for deletion. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 06:03, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note - I spent a little bit of time tonight cleaning up, updating references, adding a new reference to a 2016 article in Recoil (magazine). We need some help from a wordsmith to expand the text. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 06:33, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- Weak Keep, I've found some sourcing. Cleanup is possible, not a reason to delete. This is nowhere near TNT level. Star Mississippi 14:27, 13 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This page need to be rewritten to not be like an advertisement, but there are some articles online about the museum that make it notable. That Tired TarantulaBurrow 17:44, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Apart from being written like an advertisement (WP:NORG), this entry fails WP:GNG. Its only sources are its own website. AstridMitch (talk) 03:58, 19 June 2024
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- Delete: Could be notable, but sourcing is primary in the article. I can only find various travel blogs or listings for them [23], without much coverage at all. Oaktree b (talk) 14:34, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per reasonable coverage in books and news sources. gidonb (talk) 20:55, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Final relist. I was going to close this as No consensus until I looked at the article and saw that only one source wasn't from the official website. Where are all of these independent sources editors arguing to Keep this article are referring to?
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- Keep. I added some references. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 03:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Yes, it would be great if this article gets expanded, but meanwhile it passes content and sourcing, as is. Good starter article. — Maile (talk) 03:42, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
- Byrne, Susan, ed. (2003). Off the Beaten Path: A Travel Guide to More Than 1,000 Scenic and Interesting Places Still Uncrowded and Inviting. Pleasantville, New York: Reader's Digest. p. 207. ISBN 0-7621-0424-4. Retrieved 2024-07-04 – via Google Books.
The book notes: "Conceived in 1986 by four friends with a shared passion for historic military vehicles and who thrilled at driving their own vintage models in parades this museum has developed into a place to honor America's other veterans of the battlefront. It boasts a collection of more than 60 meticulously restored fighting machines, ready to roll at a moment's notice. Most vehicles have been acquired within a 150-mile radius of the museum. When tractors were in short supply in the 1940s and early 1950s, local farmers often relied on retired warriors rugged jeeps, trucks, and half-tracks to work their land. The Heartland's dedicated staff has rescued many from rust and oblivion, returning them to mint condition."
- Garrison, Gretchen M. (2017). Detour Nebraska: Historic Destinations & Natural Wonders. Charleston, South Carolina: The History Press. p. 101. ISBN 978-1-62585-881-8. Retrieved 2024-07-04 – via Google Books.
The book notes: "Ever wondered what sitting in a tank would be like? This central Nebraska location encourages exploration of all vehicles on display. Besides tanks, helicopters, halftracks and even ambulances are on display. Jeeps from every branch of service are lined up. From World War II to present day, about one hundred restored vehicles are ready for action. Most are still operational. Military engines are also housed here."
- Hammel, Paul (2007-06-14). "Museum shows how military goes rolling along" (pages 1 and 2). Omaha World-Herald. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2024-07-04. Retrieved 2024-07-04 – via Newspapers.com.
The article notes: " Such moments and memories are hallmarks of the Heartland Museum of Military Vehicles, a volunteer-run, admission-free facility off Interstate 80 at the Lexington exit. It displays military memorabilia, including more than 70 restored Jeeps, tanks and helicopters, to honor those who built and used the "Arsenal of Democracy." ... Lauby, 60, is among the three farmers and an attorney three of whom are Vietnam veterans who founded the museum in 1988. ... Most of the vehicles were found within a 150-mile radius of Lexington, but several were purchased through military surplus sales or donated by veterans. Over-the-road truckers and local railroads have donated services to haul the hulking machines. ... One of the museum's six Huey helicopters was shot down five times in Vietnam; another was a medical ambulance during Operation Desert Storm."
- Duggan, Joe (1999-09-26). "Vehicles of history: Lexington farm boys establish museum". Lincoln Journal Star. Archived from the original on 2024-07-04. Retrieved 2024-07-04 – via Newspapers.com.
The article notes: "At the Heartland Museum of Military Vehicles, they've got Nebraska's largest private collection of military jeeps, ambulances, armored personnel carriers and Burma trucks. On the northeast corner of the Interstate 80 Lexington interchange, they've got about 60 restored military vehicles representing every armed conflict from World War I to Operation Desert Storm. ... What Nielsen referred to as a group of naive farm boys and ranchers incorporated as a nonprofit group, took out bank loans, raised money and built the first building on the site. They opened in 1993, but only in good weather. They put the word out that if the flag was up on the pole, the museum was open."
- Ward, Malena (2005-04-30). "Lex museum depicts memorable Vietnam moment" (pages 1 and 2). Kearney Hub. Archived from the original (pages 1 and 2) on 2024-07-04. Retrieved 2024-07-04 – via Newspapers.com.
The article notes: "The Heartland Museum of Military Vehicles was founded by Vietnam veterans, but it doesn't limit itself to that era. The museum is dedicated to the restoration and preservation of historical military equipment of all types. It is at the northeast corner of the intersection of Highway 283 and the Lexington Interstate 80 interchange at exit 237."
- Byrne, Susan, ed. (2003). Off the Beaten Path: A Travel Guide to More Than 1,000 Scenic and Interesting Places Still Uncrowded and Inviting. Pleasantville, New York: Reader's Digest. p. 207. ISBN 0-7621-0424-4. Retrieved 2024-07-04 – via Google Books.
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Singara Chennai[edit]
- Singara Chennai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No reliable reviews or other sources other than a single production source. A search in Sify ([24]), Chennai Online ([25]), and BizHat ([26]) proves futile. Please find the Kalki and Cine South reviews or redirect to Chennai as all online sources prove to be a description for the city. A WP:BEFORE found a fleeting mention here (சிங்கார சென்னை). DareshMohan (talk) 03:10, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Chennai: Per nom. Kailash29792 (talk) 05:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and India. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:47, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or Redirect to Kalabhavan_Mani#Tamil_films. Poor sources with no significant coverage and reliable critic reviews. RangersRus (talk) 13:42, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I, the nominator, withdraw, my nomination in light of 3 new production sources. Thanks @Srivin:. DareshMohan (talk) 14:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Not opposed to keep if sources covering production are judged sufficient; if redirected, Kalabhavan_Mani#Tamil_films is imv a much better target, but List of Tamil films of 2004#July—September (where it's also listed) would seem even more appropriate, as other cast members have a page. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 07:17, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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2021 Ravanusa explosion[edit]
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Just a news story. All sources are news sources and it did not have any major societal ramifications to meet WP:NEVENT. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 03:37, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: There is further coverage on the Italian article, but if that's enough to pass NEVENT, I'm not sure. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. I genuinely don't remember what I was looking at here, did my brain make up sources? Doesn't pass nevent. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:28, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep there is coverage in international sources as well CNNNBCAl Jazeera. The fact that plenty of national sources RaiAnsa also reported on the following trial shows the depth and duration of coverage needed to fulfill WP:NEVENT. @PARAKANYAA: I would like to hear why you think the coverage is not sufficient to pass NEVENT. Broc (talk) 19:58, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
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Vii[edit]
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Besides a single Engadget review (the "Wii vs. Vii First Shot" source), the sources appear to either be unreliable (such as GoNintendo) or trivial mentions such as minor announcements/mentions, making it fail WP:GNG. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:35, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:GNG, no substantial coverage. The Banner talk 15:48, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Wii with further discussion of knockoff Wii consoles based on these sources: [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 20:47, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to VII as {{R from other capitalisation}}. Charcoal feather (talk) 01:15, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if it's redirected it will have to be moved to Vii (console) beforehand. A new redirect at this name can be created if necessary (though it's not actually necessary) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Moving it to Vii (console) is a good idea. Dr. Precursor (talk) 23:36, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, if it's redirected it will have to be moved to Vii (console) beforehand. A new redirect at this name can be created if necessary (though it's not actually necessary) ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: No consensus. Article page moves can occur if an article is Kept but can not be carried out by a closer because it's an editing decision. If you want an article moved, first vote to Keep it then a move can be discussed. But right now, we also have arguments to Delete and Redirect so no consensus exists.
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Mira-Bhayander, Vasai-Virar Police[edit]
- Mira-Bhayander, Vasai-Virar Police (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Rejected, contested draft. Moved back against advice of HD. There is no indication they meet N:ORG. A merger would be fine, but would likely need protected. Star Mississippi 00:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify then salt the page until notability enough referenced. -Lemonaka 01:00, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Poor sources that talk about inauguration, appointments and organization structure and most of these sources are from the organization's own website. There is no significant indepth coverage in secondary independent sources. Per nom, page does not satisfy the notability guidelines for organizations. Fails WP:NORG. RangersRus (talk) 14:21, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Point to note that, out of 11 almost 6 references are from different news articles, and rest which is there referenced is the actual information, which is true and not for promotion by the website... Pls review again the page references & visit those references Pratik.S2005 (talk) 14:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- the website is a government law enforcement website. Pratik.S2005 (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- 6 sites are the police stations own website mbvv.mahapolice.gov.in and 1 another government source has nothing but a link to this police station site. So these are all unreliable and not secondary independent sources. 4 others news site have nothing significant that satisfies notability. It does not have any criteria to pass the notability guidelines for organizations. RangersRus (talk) 22:31, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Agree, just to correct, it's an article for Police Commissionerate just like Mumbai Police & not a Police Station... Pratik.S2005 (talk) 13:35, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Point to note that, out of 11 almost 6 references are from different news articles, and rest which is there referenced is the actual information, which is true and not for promotion by the website... Pls review again the page references & visit those references Pratik.S2005 (talk) 14:30, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- It is requested to review the topic, it is well notable as per the guideline for notability by the Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pratik.S2005 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Eashvar Karthic[edit]
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Main issue: the 2nd film of the director never released --> WP:TOOEARLY. This guy only directed one released film, not meeting Wikipedia:Notability_(people)#Creative professionals since the film received mixed reviews. The notabliity guidleine states that the director creates a "well-known work or collective body of work". As of 2024, the work is not well known, it is a single film with mixed reviews, not a critically acclaimed film. I don't know if a writeup by an assistant professor at American College, Madurai holds any weightage but that info can be added to Penguin, the director's only released film. The deletion was caused by an undo of a redirect to Penguin. Long sources are mainly direct interviews about Penguin, not independent. Acting roles seem minor and not notable.
If anybody who directs one film, gets an article, doesn't this set a bad precedent. The film didn't win a National Award or any award for that matter.
This source [34] talks about six films including Penguin, all of this information pertaining to Penguin should be moved to the film article. This director can be notable after more of his works release. DareshMohan (talk) 22:36, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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Note: if you are wondering what the contents of source #7 is, it is here: [35] The story focuses on the pain and struggles suffered by the female lead. A pregnant woman remembers her child who went missing years ago. After the child’s missing, her husband started becoming toxic by saying she was the reason for the loss and separated ways from her. Later after years, a male character was shown who accepted her as she is and started living happily with her. No strong characterization or importance was given to both these male roles. They are just part of the screenplay
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That's just the plot of the film. How is it scholarly analysis? The assistant professor mentioned above [36] (page 100) is the only significant analysis but that is of the film and can be added to Penguin.
Just redirect to Penguin till Zebra (his second film) releases. DareshMohan (talk) 23:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: meets WP:DIRECTOR as director of Penguin (film), a notable creation that received coverage, which is what the guideline requires (the said coverage mentions him, see the page about the film). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:22, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Penguin (film): His only directorial credit. The second one has been unreleased for over a year, and doesn't have a Wiki article. Kailash29792 (talk) 00:50, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:Actor and WP:Director. AmericanY (talk) 06:55, 28 June 2024 (UTC)— AmericanY (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Keep: This seems like a bad-faith nomination and I believe you are upset about your friend, User:Monhiroe's autopatrolled rights being removed. You first edited this article on 8 October 2023, what changed your mind between then and 19 June, 2024, when you redirected it? Did it take eight months for you to judge its notability? On 19 June, you skimmed through all the articles I have ever created and made some changes on three of them [37][38][39]. Was it to check which ones you could nominate for deletion but couldn't find any, so you thought Eashvar Karthic was borderline because he had only one film and chose to redirect it? Is this how you get back at an editor who may have upset your friend?
- The notice you have posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Indian cinema task force is not neutral and did not follow WP:APPNOTE. Is your nomination rationale so weak that you are trying to discredit a source simultaneously?
- Notability
- The main issue you have mentioned in you nomination rationale is countered by WP:FILMMAKER#3 where it explicitly mentions significant or well-known work. It need not be a collective body of work.
- I believe the film receiving mixed reviews has no weightage here as we are not debating for WP:FILMMAKER#4c
As of 2024, the work is not well known, it is a single film with mixed reviews, not a critically acclaimed film.
- Adding to my previous comments above, the film has been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, which can be verified by checking Penguin (film).- Apart from the above, the film has been cited in journals for three completely different reasons: A film that discusses women-centric films, OTT during the COVID-19 pandemic and representation of the subaltern.
- If you had taken the time to read through Source #7, you would have known that the PDF you have linked is another journal that has cited the original source #7's work. In the PDF you have linked, Penguin (film) was selected as one of the films out of all the other women-centric films that were released in 2020. The scholarly analysis is in the findings and conclusion section of the same PDF. The journal entry's objective is independent of the subject, so it's absurd to ask for an analysis about the film when the objective is different.
- FWIW, here is another journal that extensively cites the subject's work.
- There is significant coverage about the subject and their work. Penguin (film) has also received independent periodical articles, reviews and cited in multiple journals, thereby passing the WP:FILMMAKER criteria. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 09:02, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Jeraxmoira, I completely agree with you on the notability of this director and, like you, I do indeed disagree with DareshMohan's interpretation of the guideline in the present case, but is your very aggressive opening statement absolutely necessary? I am inviting you to kindly strike it. I don't think it's appropriate here, nor helpful. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Any bad-faith nomination will be called out. My statement is true and the diffs/timeline make it clear, so it will not be struck out. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 11:05, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Hello Jeraxmoira, I completely agree with you on the notability of this director and, like you, I do indeed disagree with DareshMohan's interpretation of the guideline in the present case, but is your very aggressive opening statement absolutely necessary? I am inviting you to kindly strike it. I don't think it's appropriate here, nor helpful. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:27, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Penguin (film): he has done only 1 film its better he done atleast 3 or 4 movies. Another film he directed was not released yet. WP:TOOEARLY. Monhiroe (talk) 09:49, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or Redirect to Penguin (film). Case of WP:TOOSOON with only 1 release under this director and has not garnered significant achievement to satisfy notability. RangersRus (talk) 13:03, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I agree with the analyses of Mushy Yank and Jeraxmoira wrt Penguin meeting GNG via sufficient reviews, thus Karthic automatically passing NCREATIVE#3 and therefore being automatically considered notable by the wording of NCREATIVE's header. I don't like it, but individual AFDs aren't a great place to overrule clear guidelines so I've started a discussion at NBIO Talk because NCREATIVE#3 is clearly a much lower standard (at the lower bound) from the other criteria. That also said, I also suspect that when Zebra is released that it will also receive more than sufficient reviews to pass NFILM[40][41], there will be no good single redirect target, and Karthic will pass my proposed modified NCREATIVE#3 anyway, so a WP:NOPAGE redirect would likely be short-lived. ~Hydronium~Hydroxide~(Talk)~ 09:03, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Monhiroe and RangersRus, there is is no policy based rationale in your Delete/Redirect votes. I would like to know which policy Eashvar Karthic fails or does not pass to have a separate article. WP:TOOEARLY and WP:TOOSOON are essays and not policies. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 12:40, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- WP:TOOSOON is to tell in short the reason that the actor/director is too early to have a standalone page on himself and policy wise page fails WP:Actor and WP:Director. RangersRus (talk) 13:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work, i.e Penguin (film). Are you implying that Penguin is not a significant work even though it has an article on Wikipedia and has been cited in 3+ journals? RangersRus. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry I do not find his work significant or noteworthy that has received a wide critical acclaim or award or even considered for a remake by other makers. Noteworthy: If we take film Kill (film), the director Nikhil Nagesh Bhat (does not have a Wikipedia page), has created a noteworthy significant work noticed by International critics and the film has also been considered for remake by Hollywood makers. RangersRus (talk) 14:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- But WP:FILMMAKER#3 does not need wide critical acclaim, award or remake by other makers when it fulfills the 'coverage in periodical articles or reviews'. Are you still going to stick to your point? Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 21:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry I do not find his work significant or noteworthy that has received a wide critical acclaim or award or even considered for a remake by other makers. Noteworthy: If we take film Kill (film), the director Nikhil Nagesh Bhat (does not have a Wikipedia page), has created a noteworthy significant work noticed by International critics and the film has also been considered for remake by Hollywood makers. RangersRus (talk) 14:53, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work, i.e Penguin (film). Are you implying that Penguin is not a significant work even though it has an article on Wikipedia and has been cited in 3+ journals? RangersRus. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 13:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- WP:TOOSOON is to tell in short the reason that the actor/director is too early to have a standalone page on himself and policy wise page fails WP:Actor and WP:Director. RangersRus (talk) 13:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - meets WP:CREATIVE and WP:NBASIC, as far as I can tell. This seems to be a case of WP:NOTIMPORTANTENOUGH, at least to the nominator - but that isn't a valid ground for article deletion. Newimpartial (talk) 14:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment This article mentions the Telugu film but it should also mention how that film was delayed and never released. I genuinely feel that this article should exist after that film releases per Wikipedia:There_is_no_deadline#View_one:_Don't_rush_to_create_articles:
We can afford to take our time, to consider matters, to wait before creating a new article until its significance is unambiguously established.
DareshMohan (talk) 21:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC)- Another essay? It seems we are moving away from policy based arguments. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 05:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
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