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Supreet Bedi[edit]
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Article refunded after soft deletion, but still fails WP:GNG and WP:NBIO. The vast majority of sources are tabloid coverage, which doesn't count as WP:SIGCOV under GNG. Other sources include primary sources like the subject's own book or WP:INTERVIEWS, or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS. Dclemens1971 (talk) 15:06, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fails all criteria WP:GNG, WP:BIO and WP:BLP. No WP:SIGCOV. Sources are poor to unreliable WP:NEWSORGINDIA. RangersRus (talk) 18:56, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Cottage Hill, Indiana[edit]
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An area on the west side of Brazil, I'm not getting reading on whether it was ever considered a town unto itself. What I can see of it looks like maybe a neighborhood, maybe just a locale.... Right now it's just a phrase on a map and the name of a cemetery. Mangoe (talk) 10:06, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Cottage Hill was one end of an interurban streetcar line to Harmony, Indiana.[1] that opened in 1893 and probably went out of business in the 1920s or 1930s. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 14:17, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Fisher, Vicky. "When the trains stopped" (PDF). Bell Memorial Public Library.
- I tried to get information on this line, without a great deal of success. Everyone talking about it says that the east end was in Harmony; but they they don't all say that the west end was in Cottage Hill. I neve found a source that showed a map of the line. And again, this is a passing reference: stations and stops ae not the same thing as towns. Mangoe (talk) 04:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - This is a particularly bad nomination; a simple newspaper search will generate hundreds of articles and mentions. See, for example, just whipping up a random something-something quickly for our purposes here, THIS town coverage from a special correspondent, datelined Cottage Hill, from the South Bend Tribune of June 25, 1908. Carrite (talk) 04:49, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- THIS from a 1911 issue of the Brazil Daily Times mentions a "Cottage Hill band" giving a box supper at "Cottage Hill school". Carrite (talk) 04:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- None of these more or less passing references says that Cottage Hill is a town unto itself and not just a neighborhood of Brazil. Mangoe (talk) 04:01, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- THIS from a 1911 issue of the Brazil Daily Times mentions a "Cottage Hill band" giving a box supper at "Cottage Hill school". Carrite (talk) 04:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per Carrite. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:25, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete my search shows a gazetteer from the 1860s showing it was listed as a post office. [1] on page 530 talks about the person who bought a farm and cleaned the place up and then created the Cottage Hill cemetery using his surname as a possessive pronoun. I'm also not convinced by the newspaper clippings which have been presented so far. One is from South Bend and all the other small places it lists are from the greater South Bend region, but this is on the other side of Indiana, and the second just shows there was a school named Cottage Hill. I'm willing to be convinced, but I think this was a post office and cemetery and farm based on my research, and I typically will tend to vote Keep on these things. SportingFlyer T·C 15:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
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leaning delete.- I can't find a Cottage Hill in the microfilmed Clay Co post office records.
- it don't see it on the 1915 county map, altho maybe I missed it.
- it's only mentioned as "Cottage Hill Cemetery" in the 1909 county history
- can't really find any news coverage discussing it as a populated place at any point
- It might have been a preexisting location on the National Road but finding no evidence of that (yet?)
- The interurban stop probably doesn't qualify it for notability
- I'd be open to a redirect to Dick Johnson Township or a move to Cottage Hill Cemetery but meh.
- Update: I skimmed a history of early transport in Indiana and no sign of Cottage Hill just the discouraging comment "The country lying between Terre Haute and Indianapolis was an almost unbroken wilderness, the settlements were separated by extensive and gloomy forests, and only a few villages were scattered along the line of the National Road. The railroad left this latter highway at Plainfield, from which point to Greencastle but a few settlements were to be found, and beyond that place for a number of miles conditions were even worse." There's a map that includes Brazil as a stop but Cottage Hills makes no appearance.
- Hahaha Cunningham Tavern on the National Road burned down 1855/1856. So maybe something!
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- Keep. I regret to inform that this location is notable, or at least is the setting of a folksy and charming yarn about Abe Lincoln in 1858. I have expanded the history section and will add a touch more from the 20th century shortly. jengod (talk) 01:17, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Kingdom Achievers Award[edit]
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Disputed PROD. My PROD rationale still stands, notability isn't automatic or inherited. There are so many awards out there that are being awarded to entities but an award's significance isn't solely determined by the prestige of the awarding entity or the notable recipients. Instead, verifiable evidence from reliable sources is required to substantiate claims of notability. These sources must specifically focus on the award itself, providing in-depth information. Sources primarily highlighting award recipients rather than the award itself don't establish notability. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedly Keep: Article meets wikipedia:Notability, Also meets GNG, all the source are reliable, independent sources and it’s not inherited Notability, i suggest the nominator searches the topic and read through the article, as it’s a Gospel niche award and has multiple references from reliable source, the nominator has always been on my watch and nominates all my article for deletion and i think it’s likely a bad faith nomination but I’ll love to hear from other editors, thanks Madeforall1 (talk) 16:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- User:Madeforall1 speedy keep only applies in certain situations listed at WP:SKCRIT, none of which apply. If there are additional sources with WP:SIGCOV please consider expanding the article with them to facilitate analysis by other editors, it is not a requirement but definitely helps, thanks. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:199B:E3C0:2FAB:D007 (talk) 18:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – I find the idea that sources need to "specifically focus on the award" as overly strict; if major independent outlets are choosing to cover the announcement of nominees and winners, that conveys a degree of significance to those awards. In other words, there may not be significant coverage of the awards as an organization, but there is significant coverage of them as an event. Having worked a fair amount with TV and film award articles, I think this is in line with other examples (as an example, see Los Angeles Film Critics Association, which is basically just about the awards presented by the organization – the sources cover the ceremonies/nominees/winners, not the organization). RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:06, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll add the caveat that I don't know enough about Nigerian media to say if the sources here are generally reliable, but since that wasn't the issue raised in the nomination, I'm assuming they are. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t see how covering the award itself is a strict measure. How then do we measure the significance of a subject? There are so many awards out there that are being awarded to recipients at events, that aren’t notable awards, even campus/college/university awards are also being awarded at ceremonies, I don’t see how that generally counts towards establishing GNG. These coupled with the fact that most of these pieces from the sources used are just overly promotional and unreliable, WP:GNG isn’t anywhere closely established. Also, using Los Angeles Film Critics Association is a poor comparison, you can’t exactly say an award that has been awarded for over 30 years won’t satisfy GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces, You have dropped your comments before sir why dropping more and attacking someone that dropped his votes and options? As said notable independent news sites have covered more about the event over time and I think in creating articles, it’s shows how notable the award is and it’s not just school or private organization award but an award for gospel artist, as sources is not notable based on the number of references. Madeforall1 (talk) 15:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Madeforall1 Your comment above is nonsensical because it adds no value to this discussion. You’re literally badgering already and I’ve been playing along with you from your talk page to mine. My comments above were presented in line with this discussion, yours wasn’t and isn’t exactly useful to the discussion. Please stop this poor attitude of yours. Do not ping me if you have nothing useful to add to this discussion, I don’t want to be notified of your poorly presented comments. You’re already giving the vibe of both UPE and COI, and that’s probably the reason you’re upset because an article you created got AfDed. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces Is this how you insult people? You don’t deserve to be a reviewer, you are just attacking everyone, you do everything with bad faith, I don’t think you deserve the privileges you got here, you are even a new editor and yet you talk to people carelessly, desist from such act and listen to people, I wonder if you know everything. Madeforall1 (talk) 15:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Madeforall1: Do you have any sort of relationship with the subject of this article? I agree with Vanderwaalforces, your editing pattern is often indicative of undisclosed paid editing or a more general conflict of interest. If you do have a conflict of interest, whether you're being directly compensated for your edits or not, you have to disclose it. Not doing so could result in you being blocked from editing. Also, comments like yours above could be taken as personal attacks, so I suggest you strike them out. Please reply to this message confirming whether or not you have a COI with Kingdom Achievers Award. C F A 💬 04:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @CFA, I don’t have any conflict of interests nor connected to the subject, but it’s also not nice for a particular user not to improve and article instead of constantly give bad faith reviews, else I don’t know the subject but I know the award and I’ve seen many gospel artists that have received awards which the references are also added to there articles on Wikipedia so I choose to write about the award. Madeforall1 (talk) 04:40, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Madeforall1: Do you have any sort of relationship with the subject of this article? I agree with Vanderwaalforces, your editing pattern is often indicative of undisclosed paid editing or a more general conflict of interest. If you do have a conflict of interest, whether you're being directly compensated for your edits or not, you have to disclose it. Not doing so could result in you being blocked from editing. Also, comments like yours above could be taken as personal attacks, so I suggest you strike them out. Please reply to this message confirming whether or not you have a COI with Kingdom Achievers Award. C F A 💬 04:29, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces Is this how you insult people? You don’t deserve to be a reviewer, you are just attacking everyone, you do everything with bad faith, I don’t think you deserve the privileges you got here, you are even a new editor and yet you talk to people carelessly, desist from such act and listen to people, I wonder if you know everything. Madeforall1 (talk) 15:56, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Madeforall1 Your comment above is nonsensical because it adds no value to this discussion. You’re literally badgering already and I’ve been playing along with you from your talk page to mine. My comments above were presented in line with this discussion, yours wasn’t and isn’t exactly useful to the discussion. Please stop this poor attitude of yours. Do not ping me if you have nothing useful to add to this discussion, I don’t want to be notified of your poorly presented comments. You’re already giving the vibe of both UPE and COI, and that’s probably the reason you’re upset because an article you created got AfDed. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:50, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that there are lots of non-significant awards like university awards, but you're not going to see significant coverage of those winners and nominees in major newspapers (aside from maybe a human-interest story, but the references here aren't that), so I don't really see what you're getting at. If newspapers are independently choosing to report on winners and nominees – and as far as I can tell, the references are independently written, not paid promotions, even if the loaded language can feel a bit promotional-y – that conveys significance to those awards relative to other awards. (As to your LAFCA rebuttal, awards can exist for decades and still not be notable. Depth of coverage, not longevity, is what matters.) RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:04, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Vanderwaalforces, You have dropped your comments before sir why dropping more and attacking someone that dropped his votes and options? As said notable independent news sites have covered more about the event over time and I think in creating articles, it’s shows how notable the award is and it’s not just school or private organization award but an award for gospel artist, as sources is not notable based on the number of references. Madeforall1 (talk) 15:24, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don’t see how covering the award itself is a strict measure. How then do we measure the significance of a subject? There are so many awards out there that are being awarded to recipients at events, that aren’t notable awards, even campus/college/university awards are also being awarded at ceremonies, I don’t see how that generally counts towards establishing GNG. These coupled with the fact that most of these pieces from the sources used are just overly promotional and unreliable, WP:GNG isn’t anywhere closely established. Also, using Los Angeles Film Critics Association is a poor comparison, you can’t exactly say an award that has been awarded for over 30 years won’t satisfy GNG. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I'll add the caveat that I don't know enough about Nigerian media to say if the sources here are generally reliable, but since that wasn't the issue raised in the nomination, I'm assuming they are. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: per nom. Sources primarily covering the nominees and recipients do not offer WP:SIGCOV of the award itself which is necessary to meet GNG. Just because certain people have received the award does not mean it is automatically eligible for its own article. I'd support a redirect but I can't find a suitable target article. C F A 💬 04:22, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I see notable and reliable references about the award, All seams to be organic, The article has a significant in-depth coverage about the event, nominations and the winner, meet WP:GNG Feellingfly (talk) 11:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC) — Feellingfly (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- The article having significant coverage of the event means nothing for notability. What matters is significant coverage of the subject in independent, reliable sources. An article could be 20 000 words long and cover everything about the topic and still not be notable. C F A 💬 23:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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PTV Sports[edit]
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References do not show how this is notable. Plenty of unreliable sources and NEWSORGINDIA but nothing in-depth. Recommend a redirect to parent Pakistan Television Corporation. While I did not do so prior to the AfD, programming also needs to be removed per WP:NOTTVGUIDE. It appears that the notability of the page is attempted to be heightened by the mentions of the programs it shows. CNMall41 (talk) 23:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: I will reserve a !vote for now but for those who may not be aware, PTV Sports is country's state-owned channel dedicated to sports, much like DD Sports in India. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 09:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Manuel D'Lima[edit]
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Reviewed during NPP. No evidence of wp:notability under SNG or GNG. None of the sources are about him. Sources (and much of the content) are about taitrs. Material on him is just resume type material. North8000 (talk) 17:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Poor to unreliable sources with no significant coverage on the subject. The subject fails notability. RangersRus (talk) 18:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment a number of references are from offline books. Has the nominator managed to access them ? Atlantic306 (talk) 18:24, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's hard to answer with respect to what you are seeing because there have been 104 edits to the article since I nominated this. But I did evaluate them at the time. North8000 (talk) 18:52, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Well, a lot was added after you nominated this, including several refs, but much of it was WP:PROMO, fluff, repetition, and stuff about the genre of theatre that, I think, has no direct relevance to D'Lima's career. I tried to reduce the promo, cruft, repetition and tangential stuff, but someone else should review the refs to see if they actually discuss Liima's life or career at all. -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:10, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's hard to answer with respect to what you are seeing because there have been 104 edits to the article since I nominated this. But I did evaluate them at the time. North8000 (talk) 18:52, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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Sadakiyans[edit]
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I was not able to verify the existence of this dynasty - the four references used in the article are also difficult to verify. Semsûrî (talk) 19:10, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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- The Cambridge History of Iran, Vol. 4, p. 227: "In other towns, too, Arab chieftains came to build their castles and dominated the inhabitants ... in Urmiya Sadaqa b. 'Ali, a client of Azd". See also https://iranicaonline.org/articles/rawwadids. I cannot verify the article as a whole or confirm if this is a notable dynasty, but it does not appear to be a fabrication. Srnec (talk) 00:10, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete sourcing is weak, and does not sufficiently convey the idea of a "dynasty"; if the individuals involved are notable, they should have their own article, but their three-generation "dynasty" is almost certainly not. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- The reason that there is so little knowledge about them is that they lived over 1,000 years ago and only ruled for around 50 years in a region wich was made up of villages, lots of mountains and a few small cities. Besides that, they seem to be the first Kurdish dynasty in History, so little information is to be expected. Karkafs Desiderium (talk) 00:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that is why they are not notable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:45, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- The reason that there is so little knowledge about them is that they lived over 1,000 years ago and only ruled for around 50 years in a region wich was made up of villages, lots of mountains and a few small cities. Besides that, they seem to be the first Kurdish dynasty in History, so little information is to be expected. Karkafs Desiderium (talk) 00:59, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Two of the references are from journals which are the subject of articles in the English Wikipedia: Revue du monde musulman and Revue des études islamiques, and the third cites the first edition of Encyclopaedia of Islam. References do not have to be online to be valid, but editors with access to a university library might be able to access online or printed versions of the references. The fourth reference, perhaps added in error, was in a battle infobox that another editor removed. It was to the book The sword of Persia : Nader Shah, from tribal warrior to conquering tyrant, about Nader Shah, who was ruler of Persia much later, from 1736 to 1747. That fourth reference is no longer in the particle, but I think the three remaining references are good ones. I think the article is adequately referenced. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 00:19, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- We don't know what content is covered by the references and what is unsourced. The third and last reference is on the fifth line of the article. Semsûrî (talk) 13:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Kamal Gray[edit]
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Per WP:BANDMEMBER, Redirect to The Roots#Band lineup. Extremely little coverage can be found to justify notability, except articles about his donation of 25,000$ and a strange biographical article/interview/financial advice piece [2] published by UBS. Broc (talk) 20:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: The articles about his donations are in reputable sources and speak to his notability as a member of The Roots, and the genre/format of the UBS article is not relevant to whether it counts as a source to establish notability. His notability comes from his being a member of The Roots and the sources confirm that. Hexatekin (talk) 03:13, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:BANDMEMBER, being a member of a notable band does not imply the subject has independent notability. Broc (talk) 15:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware of the BANDMEMBER policy. I still think there is more press on him, maybe in magazines. Will try to improve references. Looking at Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals, as an early and ongoing member of The Roots, I'd say he qualifies for these 2 for sure: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times, or The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field". Hexatekin (talk) 16:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Several notable band affiliations. Keystone18 (talk) 18:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware of the BANDMEMBER policy. I still think there is more press on him, maybe in magazines. Will try to improve references. Looking at Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals, as an early and ongoing member of The Roots, I'd say he qualifies for these 2 for sure: "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for such an award several times, or The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field". Hexatekin (talk) 16:27, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Per WP:BANDMEMBER, being a member of a notable band does not imply the subject has independent notability. Broc (talk) 15:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to The Roots#Band lineup. Per WP:MUSIC a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles is notable. Gray is a member of The Roots and The Tonight Show Band, both have WP articles. But he doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV. Tau Corvi (talk) 12:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Luxury belief[edit]
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Page does not meet notability as it is a concept essentially by a single author, and there is already a subheading on the Rob_K._Henderson_(author) page concerning this idea. Any content (if there is any) of additional value can be placed there and this article can be made into a redirection. A previous editor requested deletion, but that was reverted without discussion. There is little to no support for this article on the associated talk page. PaigePhault (talk) 23:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- this page might incorporate more perspectives cross referencing, ACTIVISM, SOCIAL INJUSTICE, PRIVILEGE, POSTURING Comcredo (talk) 07:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The terminology is (correctly) attributed to Rob Henderson. However, the concept is much older, and may be used in many other contexts than family structure.
- More important, it is used all the time, and it is quite important, to understand the conflict between materialistic and moral ideologies characterising modern debate. Gamle gnavne mænd (talk) 07:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The concept has been the subject of a New York Times arcticle (see https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/10/opinion/campus-protests-progressive-henderson.html). The concept can thus reasonably be said to be in wide circulation, and it is useful to have a page describing it. 2A00:23CC:B720:AC01:3588:782F:4F03:50B9 (talk) 09:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Coalition to Reduce Spending[edit]
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I'm cleaning up articles tagged with puffery and advert. This one seems to be sourced with sources controlled by the founder, and is beyond saving. Any independent coverage is mostly about the founder. It doesn't even seem to be around anymore, per the web site. A merge and redirect looks to be the best path. See earlier deletion discussion, with a similar suggestion, where sources were equally poor but standards seemed to be lower. Ticoeditor (talk) 21:07, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as it fails WP:NCORP. - Amigao (talk) 03:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Riyadh School of Tourism and Hospitality[edit]
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Stub about a proposed future institute based entirely on PR. I don’t think this organisation is yet notable. Mccapra (talk) 21:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Rakan Daqar[edit]
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There is no Reliable Sources at all. Untamed1910 (talk) 22:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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2026 Kerala Legislative Assembly election[edit]
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Deleted at a prior AfD as per WP:TOOSOON. Bringing it here once more to see if editors agree on keeping it. CycloneYoris talk! 22:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete and salt: It's clearly too early. This could have been speedy deleted as a recreation of content that was opposed by a majority in the last AFD.--Gan Favourite (talk) 09:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
List of programs broadcast by Geo Entertainment[edit]
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Another one that fails WP:NLIST. I removed everything that does not have a reference or a Wikipedia page and there are only three current original programs. Everything else falls under WP:NOTTVGUIDE. I did a WP:BEFORE in an attempt to find sourcing that talks about their programming as a whole and was unable to find anything reliable. I recommend a redirect of the name and maybe include the three current programs on the main Geo Entertainment page as an WP:ATD. CNMall41 (talk) 22:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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2019 Mesterfinalen[edit]
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Non-notable cancelled football match with very little WP:IMPACT, other than that the competition did not resume again after the cancellation. Geschichte (talk) 21:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Mesterfinalen#Editions#2019. It's a possible valid WP:STUB, place holder page with information, but I don't see much point off whats on the main article, so I suggest a redirect as it's covered what happened on the main page. Govvy (talk) 09:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Lucky Akter[edit]
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Non-notable politician who has never held an elected office. Coverage does meet the requirement for WP:GNG and easily fails WP:NPOL. Vinegarymass911 (talk) 21:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Lucky Akter's Wikipedia page should not be removed for several reasons:
- Notability: Lucky Akter has gained significant attention and recognition for her role in the 2013 Shahbagh Movement, which was a pivotal event in Bangladesh's recent history. Her activism and leadership have had a substantial impact on the political and social landscape of the country.
- Public Interest: As a prominent activist, Lucky Akter's actions and contributions are of interest to the public. Documenting her life and work provides valuable information to those researching contemporary Bangladeshi politics and social movements.Historical
- Significance: The Shahbagh Movement is a critical chapter in Bangladesh's history. As a leading figure in this movement, Lucky Akter's contributions help contextualize and understand the broader implications and outcomes of the movement.
- Media Coverage: Her activities and statements have been covered by both national and international media, adding to her notability and the verifiability of the information available about her.
- Representation: Having a Wikipedia page for Lucky Akter ensures representation of female activists and leaders from South Asia, contributing to a more diverse and inclusive record of historical and contemporary figures.
- These points align with Wikipedia's guidelines for notability and verifiability, making a strong case for the retention of her page. Benzir A. Shawon (talk) 07:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- https://journals.openedition.org/vibrant/2784 Benzir A. Shawon (talk) 08:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Please check this URL for her mention in journals: https://journals.openedition.org/vibrant/2784 Benzir A. Shawon (talk) 08:11, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The Communist Party of Bangladesh is a registered party in the Election Commission of Bangladesh and Lucky Akter is a central committee member of that party. Benzir A. Shawon (talk) 08:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Estate jewelry[edit]
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Nominating for article for deletion because there are no references and Wikipedia is not a dictionary WP:NOTDICT --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 21:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Permastub, WP:NOTDICT. --Un assiolo (talk) 21:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. I added some references. The nominator might not have done WP:BEFORE properly. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 23:43, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:NOTDICT, and the term is nearly self-explanatory to anyone who knows what "estate" means. Newly-added references are not about estate jewelry as a distinct concept but different examples of the term being used in different contexts. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 01:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Sorcerer (operating system)[edit]
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Article cites no sources, couldn't find anything to verify notability Anwon (talk) 21:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - cant find anything on web or google scholar either. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 22:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete the article is unsourced, and makes no claim of importance or significance. Walsh90210 (talk) 15:24, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Aquebogue Windmill[edit]
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Non-notable replica structure written in non-encyclopedic promotional tone. Fails the test of multiple secondary, independent, reliable sources. (The Bob Liepa article is the same article published in three different places, the Dempsey article does not mention this windmill at all, and the KDHamptons article is ineligible as tabloid coverage.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Coverage I find is strictly local, from the Suffolk Times about damage to the windmill. There seems to be no coverage outside of hyperlocal items, I'm not seeing notability. Oaktree b (talk) 23:57, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge (selective) with Pantigo Windmill, of which this is a replica. Djflem (talk) 12:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- As nominator I would accept a selective merge as an AtD. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:31, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Radical chrétien[edit]
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Fails GNG: The only candidate who used the "radical Christian" label is Rousseau, and contemporary coverage about him is not significant. Newspaper coverage shows that the three candidates in 1967 actually represented the Ralliement des créditistes, with the label "Créditiste". Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Antslive[edit]
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Not notable musical artist. Still has a long journey to get to notability MaximumRespect! MrFixer200 (talk) 20:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep, seems like plenty of coverage: [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] Geschichte (talk) 22:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Almost TOOSOON. Looks like he just became a musician in the last year or so... These are from a RS per Project Albums [9], [10], just not enough coverage yet to establish notability. Oaktree b (talk) 00:01, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Geschichte, see also [11], [12]. If kept, it should be renamed to AntsLive. Wikishovel (talk) 05:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Yasmin Nair[edit]
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Subject does not meet Wikipedia notability standards Floralbergamot (talk) 20:21, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I would like to add that the subject has received virtually no coverage in reliable sources. Based on the contents of the article, such as using the subject's personal website as a source numerous times and directing the reader to articles archived on the subject's personal website, it was possibly created as a result of self-promotion. Floralbergamot (talk) 20:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Not quite notable activist, coverage is mostly in articles she's written, or stuff about spats she's having with one person or another...[13]. I don't see notability with a lack of sourcing as well. Oaktree b (talk) 00:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Ankit Kayal[edit]
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Not notable for a page. The sources are not reliable MaximumRespect! MrFixer200 (talk) 20:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speedy delete A7, G11, G5, take your pick. It's spam for an unremarkable physician, by this week's sockpuppet of Btw Santhosh, and larded as usual with Santhosh's dire news-skinned blogs. Wikishovel (talk) 20:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Clearly fails WP:GNG. Youknow? (talk) 07:46, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Jacqueline Lovell[edit]
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No significant coverage found. She had three supporting roles in Full Moon Features films that have articles, but that does not seem to be enough - especially with no significant coverage. SL93 (talk) 19:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: meets WP:NACTOR for her significant roles (including lead roles) in at least Hideous!, Head of The Family and The Killer Eye, that are notable productions. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- The exact guideline says "Such a person may be considered notable if:", not that they are automatically notable. SL93 (talk) 20:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- And? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- And she is not automatically notable from three roles in three films when none of the roles received significant coverage. SL93 (talk) 20:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- But do you allow me to think she is and to !vote according to the applicable guideline? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, but do you allow me to voice my thoughts because AfD is not merely just a vote? SL93 (talk) 20:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think your thoughts were pretty clear in your rationale, but feel free, of course. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, but do you allow me to voice my thoughts because AfD is not merely just a vote? SL93 (talk) 20:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- But do you allow me to think she is and to !vote according to the applicable guideline? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- And she is not automatically notable from three roles in three films when none of the roles received significant coverage. SL93 (talk) 20:36, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- And? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- The exact guideline says "Such a person may be considered notable if:", not that they are automatically notable. SL93 (talk) 20:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete While she does meet WP:NACTOR, I cannot find a single source mentioning her other than movie databases, so she does not pass WP:GNG. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Added some sources. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- The sources are either not independent (words from co-star, an interview) and trivial coverage. One of the sources says, "This film (along with the aforementioned Hideous!) stars the beautiful Jacqueline Lovell, whose career came to screeching halt shortly after this film." Not only is a sentence not significant coverage but I would say that her career coming to a screeching halt shortly after a B-film speaks towards non-notability. SL93 (talk) 21:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- In less than 2 minutes, you've read all the sources added? Wow, I confess I am impressed. Anyway, begging to differ; even if her career as a b-movie star stopped it's sufficiently notable; and anyway again, I've added even more, and more exists, not that it is necessary imv. I disagree with almost everything you said but will leave it at that, thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why would I need to read the full sources when I just need to use CTRl+F to search for "Jacqueline Lovell"? Why would I need to read full sources to know that something is an interview? Same with knowing that something is just a film database like IMDb and TV.com? SL93 (talk) 21:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- In less than 2 minutes, you've read all the sources added? Wow, I confess I am impressed. Anyway, begging to differ; even if her career as a b-movie star stopped it's sufficiently notable; and anyway again, I've added even more, and more exists, not that it is necessary imv. I disagree with almost everything you said but will leave it at that, thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- The sources are either not independent (words from co-star, an interview) and trivial coverage. One of the sources says, "This film (along with the aforementioned Hideous!) stars the beautiful Jacqueline Lovell, whose career came to screeching halt shortly after this film." Not only is a sentence not significant coverage but I would say that her career coming to a screeching halt shortly after a B-film speaks towards non-notability. SL93 (talk) 21:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Added some sources. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- The sources added (by the time of your first reply to me, I will check the new sources now) do not constitute significant coverage. Here is an analysis of them:
- [14] Only two passing mentions
- [15] This is unreliable per WP:IMDB
- [16] This is an interview, so it is not independent
- [17] This is a movie summary, and only makes three passing mentions of her
- [18] Only one passing mention
- [19] Only one passing mention
- [20] Only one passing mention
- [21] This is a movie, which is not independent of the subject
- [22] Only two passing mentions
- [23] Again, this is a list of movies, so not significant coverage
- [24] This is another movie, which is not independent of the subject
- Gödel2200 (talk) 21:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Here is an analysis of the five new sources added, which still do not constitute significant coverage.
- Delete: I tend to agree with the source analysis above; the best I could find was [30], it's not quite enough for notability. Delete for lack of sourcing, not meeting ACTOR. Oaktree b (talk) 00:10, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Whitney_Wright[edit]
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Actor that fails to meet the notability guidelines of WP:ENT: Does not have significant roles in multiple notable productions, nor have they made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. The only reliable secondary source about the subject relates to how this pornographic actor went to Iran, posted some photos on social media, and has cause a social media controversy online. This doesn't establish notability as an entertainer, and is exclusively be tied to a single event that is largely unrelated to the subject's profession as an entertainer. Davidwbaker (talk) 19:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: a few years ago, a group of users has managed to create a consensus that states that pornographic entertainers are basically not notable for what they do (their awards do not count, the coverage from the industry does not count, etc.). However the torrent of coverage W. Wright received for her political opinions shows her notability as porn actress is recognised outside WP and outside industry/adult coverage. That's why I think the article could be retained. NB-Coverage is international and includes reliable media, Guardian, Al Jazeera, Euronews, Hindustan Times, and so on. Despite this being limited in time, my !vote is based on the fact that it confirms her more general notability (since PORNBIO has been "cancelled"). (Note: I am the one who DPDd the page- same nominator, as I didn't juge deletion uncontroversial). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 20:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Meets GNG with the Guardian and the AP source. Coverage in a few different news sources [31] as well. Oaktree b (talk) 00:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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Nations Publications Limited of Malawi[edit]
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Reviewed during NPP. No indication of wp:notability under GNG or Sng. Tagged by others for this since April. Misses ncorp by far. Zero references other than their own website and I couldn't find any GNG references. North8000 (talk) 19:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect: to The Nation (Malawi), since this (AfD subject) is the parent company that owns The Nation, which is probably Malawi's oldest and generally reliable daily and weekly newspaper since 1993 being distributed locally around the country.--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 23:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @North8000 Tumbuka Arch (talk) 23:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Tumbuka Arch: Sounds like a good idea. North8000 (talk) 01:32, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @North8000 Tumbuka Arch (talk) 23:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Zang Toi[edit]
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Very questionable notability based on a lack of WP:RS Amigao (talk) 20:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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KF1[edit]
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It exists, but doesn't meet WP:N. Boleyn (talk) 19:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Per nom, fails WP:NCORP. Youknow? (talk) 07:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- This is not a corporation. MSport1005 (talk) 10:03, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep – Bare rationale.
"It exists"
? Yes... the iconic top class of karting sure exists. The fact that it was phased out 8 years ago doesn't erase its history."Doesn't meet WP:N"
is one ambitious affirmation that likely stems from a deep unfamiliarity with the sport. The above vote also fails to understand that karting classes aren't corporations (like NASCAR or Formula One) but rather types of engines. Formula A and KF are short terms used in a lot of fields, so WP:BEFORE searches are tedious, but they had a leading role in the golden era of karting. Numerous sources ([32], [33], [34], [35], [36], [37], [38], [39], [40], [41], [42], [43], [44]) could be used to improve the article, as it's rather low-quality. Same applies to its feeders KF2 and KF3 (now OK and OK-Junior) and shifters KZ1 and KZ2. But all offer necessary information that, if deleted, would be imperative to add back to the main karting article. I think the current split works best. MSport1005 (talk) 11:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Sustainable Land Use Forum[edit]
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I am struggling to find significant contemporary or historical references to SLUF. Clearly it did exist in the early part of the 21st century - but I am not sure of its notability. Perhaps others can find material to justify its retention. As an example - https://www.ordaethiopia.org/index.php/about-us- mentions SLUF as a network that it was part of, but gives no details. Newhaven lad (talk) 18:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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British National League (1996–2005)[edit]
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Doesn't appear to meet WP:N Boleyn (talk) 19:01, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Notable professional sports league. Many sources are available as per WP:BEFORE, but unfortunately no user has added any. The article needs to be improved, as per WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 13:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Nonhlanhla Joye[edit]
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WP:BLP of a social entrepreneur, not properly referenced as passing inclusion criteria for entrepreneurs. The attempted notability claim here, that she founded an organization, would be fine if the article were reliably sourced to WP:GNG-worthy coverage about her in real media of record, but this as written is referenced far, far too heavily to primary source content self-published by organizations she's directly affiliated with, and shows very little evidence of third-party coverage about her in independent GNG-worthy sources. Bearcat (talk) 16:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- weak delete: Should be notable, but there just isn't much coverage... A PBS interview here [45] and a brief mention here in a French article [46]. Oaktree b (talk) 00:09, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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CDK Company[edit]
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All sources link to a single viral moment of them performing a Gotye song, rather than any meaningful coverage. Article has had puffery issues in the past. Doesn't really seem to meet WP:NOTABILITY outside of a singular viral moment that got a modicum of coverage. Warrenᚋᚐᚊᚔ 18:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as not meeting WP:NORG. This is spammy also at articles that lead to the page so a thorough cleanup along with the deletion is much appreciated. gidonb (talk) 14:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Last vehicle board[edit]
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Doesn't seem to meet WP:N. Boleyn (talk) 18:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I can find a few sites describing why the last car in Indian trains has an X symbol: [47], [48], [49], but that doesn't make it a notable concept, since these are just quirky did-you-know sort of items. Analogy: I can find articles explaining why pencils are often painted yellow: [50], but that doesn't make Color of pencils a notable concept. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 01:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Should not be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abigailbassett (talk • contribs) 00:56, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Abigail Bassett[edit]
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WP:BLP of a journalist, not properly sourced as passing notability criteria for journalists. As always, journalists are not "inherently" notable enough for Wikipedia articles just because their work exists, and have to pass WP:GNG on third-party coverage -- analysis about the significance of their work, evidence of winning a notable journalism award, and on and so forth.
You don't establish a journalist as notable by referencing the article to sources where she's the bylined author of content about other things, you establish a journalist as notable by referencing the article to sources where she's the written-about subject of content written by other people. But this is referenced entirely to the self-published websites of her employers or other organizations that she's been directly affiliated with, and shows absolutely no evidence of GNG-worthy coverage about her or her work at all. Bearcat (talk) 18:35, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify As per WP:Journalist "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews, or of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series"
- Bassett won an Emmy award for her work, and as noted in the article, the page was under construction and I planned on finding the sources today, and if not would have draftified it myself.
- While you are correct, it's borderline absurd to believe that all the pages which listed her bio are lying about her award winning status. Also, the reason I did not create a draft initially, is because I recently had a draft stolen and published to mainspace, and was told by admins "It's whoever publishes to mainspace first." Comintell (talk) 18:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nobody assumed that any source was lying, but the problem was, is and remains that notability can never be established by sources that an article subject was directly affiliated with, and can only be established by third parties covering her and her work independently of her. Even an award still has to have been written about as news, somewhere other than her own staff profiles on the websites of her own employers, before it turns into a valid notability claim, because even awards are still only notable if they get reported as news by a source that doesn't represent the awarded entity simply tooting its own horn.
Also, nobody "owns" Wikipedia content, so I don't understand your "I had a draft stolen" story at all — what did anybody owe you there, and what is it preventing you from now? Bearcat (talk) 19:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)- You're right I may have jumped the gun here, and this isn't ready for mainspace. Asking closing admin to close as a draftify Comintell (talk) 19:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Comintell, if you like to work "privately" on drafts, rather than using draftspace, you might want to make userspace drafts instead. Other editors typically won't touch those, at least not without talking to you first. They aren't easy for other editors to find, so if you're working on a topic that's in the news, it's best to work in draftspace so others don't duplicate your work. -- asilvering (talk) 22:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- You're right I may have jumped the gun here, and this isn't ready for mainspace. Asking closing admin to close as a draftify Comintell (talk) 19:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nobody assumed that any source was lying, but the problem was, is and remains that notability can never be established by sources that an article subject was directly affiliated with, and can only be established by third parties covering her and her work independently of her. Even an award still has to have been written about as news, somewhere other than her own staff profiles on the websites of her own employers, before it turns into a valid notability claim, because even awards are still only notable if they get reported as news by a source that doesn't represent the awarded entity simply tooting its own horn.
HarmonyOS kernel[edit]
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Subject fails WP:GNG, WP:NPRODUCT -- the HarmonyOS Kernel has not received WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS. Available coverage does not support standalone notability as WP:USERGENERATED (blogs, Hackernoon, Github, etc.), WP:PRIMARYSOURCES, WP:TRADES, or WP:TRIVIALMENTIONS in coverage of HarmonyOS NEXT. I attempted to redirect to HarmonyOS NEXT, but that was reverted; bringing it here with a recommendation to merge but open to other outcomes as well. Dclemens1971 (talk) 18:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Danielle_Noce[edit]
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Conteúdo publicitário, parecendo ser escrito pela mesma ou sua equipe. As fontes são o próprio site de Danielle, e a foto, uma selfie.Marisaconsuelo (talk) 17:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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John Pierce (musician)[edit]
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Does not meet WP:GNG, coverage of Pierce in secondary sources is entirely lacking. Editors with access to offline music magazine archives may have better luck finding sources, but the total absence of anything more substantial than an interview or liner notes does not suggest to me that we should presume such coverage exists. As Pierce has worked with several bands, I don't think there is any single redirect target that would be appropriate, and that internal search results thus best serve readers searching for this title. signed, Rosguill talk 17:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Kade Ferris[edit]
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I believe this article should be deleted because it clearly fails WP:NOTE. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 11:35, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- The cited sources are a bit thin but I wouldn't say it's 'clear' either way. Did you look for sources? The article lists several books authored by the subject, did you look for reviews per WP:NAUTHOR? – Joe (talk) 13:00, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah I can't find anything to meet the Wikipedia notability guidelines. I still stand by deleting this article. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 16:08, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Nope this article fails notability guidelines for authors too. It seems this page was made by friends of the article's subject. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 16:12, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- What makes you think it was made by friends of the subject? Belbury (talk) 08:49, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. His books appear to be self-published but that would be ok if there were reliably published reviews of them. I couldn't find any. The sources in the article now include a book review, but of someone else's book and mentioning Ferris only in passing. The only in-depth source that we have is a local-news obituary, appearing to be a family-written obituary rather than a work of independent journalism. That's not enough. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:33, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein Kade Ferris is the author. Charles Albert Bender = Chief Bender and is the subject of the biography. There are other reviews of that book too. Anyway I'm leaning keep. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Chief Bender meets notability guidelines for his sports career while Ferris does not meet any Wikipedia notability guidelines. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 00:15, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Are you telling me that the book Métis and the Medicine Line: Creating a Border and Dividing a People, with the author listed as Michel Hogue on the cover, is really by Kade Ferris? Because that is the book whose review I was referring to. —David Eppstein (talk) 00:20, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein Right. I clocked that the first time I read your comment, but the second time I read it, I read it the other way. I can add the other book reviews (of his book) and also quote from at least one other book I found. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- This article still seems to fail WP:NTEMP and WP:SUSTAINED OldDiddlyBop (talk) 16:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein Right. I clocked that the first time I read your comment, but the second time I read it, I read it the other way. I can add the other book reviews (of his book) and also quote from at least one other book I found. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:26, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein Kade Ferris is the author. Charles Albert Bender = Chief Bender and is the subject of the biography. There are other reviews of that book too. Anyway I'm leaning keep. Cielquiparle (talk) 22:28, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. I see that the review in American Indian Children's Literature got removed from the article as a source. I am adding it back. While the site itself could be construed as a blog, the reason this particular blog qualifies as a reliable source per WP:BLOGS, is that it is produced by Debbie Reese, who is
an established subject-matter expert, whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable, independent publications
. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:47, 4 July 2024 (UTC) - Keep - I expanded it to include more about the impact of his tribal history preservation work and the impact that has on reservations, ND and MN educational standards and added information about his mapping skills. oncamera (talk page) 08:59, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I still don't see how this article ceases to fail WP:NOTE WP:NTEMP and WP:SUSTAINED. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 16:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- His written work as an author and oral traditions that he embedded within his maps, blogs, and recorded videos for the state of North Dakota established notability. He was a respected tribal historian and elder knowledge keeper and professional work reflects that. oncamera (talk page) 21:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- The article has now been puffed up with some 30 footnotes, most of which do not seem to be the sort of in-depth independent and reliably-published coverage of the subject that could be used to pass WP:GNG. Of the ones that actually mention Ferris or his works in their title, "Kade Ferris's Gift" is an interview (not usually counted as independent), the Red Lake Nation News obituary reads like a family-written obituary (not independent), the Mendoza book review is in a blog (not reliably published), Teachings of Our Elders is by him not about him, and Archaeologist presents has no depth of coverage of Ferris. Perhaps, per WP:THREE, advocates of keeping the article could save us the effort of similarly evaluating all 30 of the footnotes and point us to three sources that are actually in-depth, independent, and reliably-published? I'm looking for a small number of high-quality sources, at most three, not many low-quality sources. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree that it would be helpful to hear the three best sources. It seems like notability is marginal at best and it's hard to see through all the passing coverage. – Joe (talk) 08:12, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- The article has now been puffed up with some 30 footnotes, most of which do not seem to be the sort of in-depth independent and reliably-published coverage of the subject that could be used to pass WP:GNG. Of the ones that actually mention Ferris or his works in their title, "Kade Ferris's Gift" is an interview (not usually counted as independent), the Red Lake Nation News obituary reads like a family-written obituary (not independent), the Mendoza book review is in a blog (not reliably published), Teachings of Our Elders is by him not about him, and Archaeologist presents has no depth of coverage of Ferris. Perhaps, per WP:THREE, advocates of keeping the article could save us the effort of similarly evaluating all 30 of the footnotes and point us to three sources that are actually in-depth, independent, and reliably-published? I'm looking for a small number of high-quality sources, at most three, not many low-quality sources. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- His written work as an author and oral traditions that he embedded within his maps, blogs, and recorded videos for the state of North Dakota established notability. He was a respected tribal historian and elder knowledge keeper and professional work reflects that. oncamera (talk page) 21:07, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I still don't see how this article ceases to fail WP:NOTE WP:NTEMP and WP:SUSTAINED. OldDiddlyBop (talk) 16:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Strong keep. This article was already extremely well cited, but I added an infobox and a little bit more. His notability stems from his tribal historic preservation work which is interdisciplinary (history, anthropology, archaeology, policy making, language advocacy, etc.) Yuchitown (talk) 16:34, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please address the discussion above about lack of high-quality sourcing, rather than merely asserting that "This article was already extremely well cited" when clearly it isn't? It has many sources but that misses the point. We need a small number of high-quality sources, and continuing to add larger numbers of low-quality sources only makes notability harder to discern by hiding the good sources in a big pile of dross. It would be better to remove both the low-quality sources and the material sourced to them so that we can focus on the essentials. The sources you added (his own dissertation and a web page about someone else that mentions him in passing) do not contribute to notability according to Wikipedia's standards for notability, which are not based on the work the subject might have done but rather on the depth of coverage of the subject in sources that are independent of him and meet Wikipedia's standards for reliable publication. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't appreciate the suggestion that tribal newspapers are "low-quality sources." Like I wrote, his notability is based on being a THPO, so it's interdisciplinary. He was not just a writer. While several pieces (Red Lake Nation News, Minnesota Native News) focus on him specifically, even if these didn't exist, Wikipedia:Notability (people) states: If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. He has contributed "part of the enduring historical record" of the Métis people. Yuchitown (talk) 02:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Tribal newspapers are as reliable as any other newspaper. But when a local newspaper (tribal or not) runs an obituary that reads like the sort of obituary written by a family member to announce a death, rather than the kind of obituary that major newspapers write themselves when famous people die, it doesn't count much towards notability. For one thing, if it is indeed written by family, it is not an independent source. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- .... even if these didn't exist, Wikipedia:Notability (people) states: "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability". He has contributed "part of the enduring historical record" of the Métis people. Yuchitown (talk) 13:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- So much a part of the enduring historical record that the only Wikilink to him from any other article is a an unsourced sentence about him in an article about a village in Lebanon, stating that he is also of Lebanese descent, something that appears nowhere in the Kade Ferris article itself? —David Eppstein (talk) 19:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- If that's an issue to you, you can help expand topics on Turtle Mountain, the Ojibwe or Metis history and credit/wikilink his article from those edits. Wikipedia needs more editors in that area. oncamera (talk page) 10:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- I definitely think the Métis have an interesting history that deserves to be better-known, but I have no special expertise in that area, and I have even less knowledge of Turtle Mountain or the Ojibwe.
- If that's an issue to you, you can help expand topics on Turtle Mountain, the Ojibwe or Metis history and credit/wikilink his article from those edits. Wikipedia needs more editors in that area. oncamera (talk page) 10:27, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- So much a part of the enduring historical record that the only Wikilink to him from any other article is a an unsourced sentence about him in an article about a village in Lebanon, stating that he is also of Lebanese descent, something that appears nowhere in the Kade Ferris article itself? —David Eppstein (talk) 19:10, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- .... even if these didn't exist, Wikipedia:Notability (people) states: "If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability". He has contributed "part of the enduring historical record" of the Métis people. Yuchitown (talk) 13:55, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Tribal newspapers are as reliable as any other newspaper. But when a local newspaper (tribal or not) runs an obituary that reads like the sort of obituary written by a family member to announce a death, rather than the kind of obituary that major newspapers write themselves when famous people die, it doesn't count much towards notability. For one thing, if it is indeed written by family, it is not an independent source. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't appreciate the suggestion that tribal newspapers are "low-quality sources." Like I wrote, his notability is based on being a THPO, so it's interdisciplinary. He was not just a writer. While several pieces (Red Lake Nation News, Minnesota Native News) focus on him specifically, even if these didn't exist, Wikipedia:Notability (people) states: If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. He has contributed "part of the enduring historical record" of the Métis people. Yuchitown (talk) 02:06, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
- Can you please address the discussion above about lack of high-quality sourcing, rather than merely asserting that "This article was already extremely well cited" when clearly it isn't? It has many sources but that misses the point. We need a small number of high-quality sources, and continuing to add larger numbers of low-quality sources only makes notability harder to discern by hiding the good sources in a big pile of dross. It would be better to remove both the low-quality sources and the material sourced to them so that we can focus on the essentials. The sources you added (his own dissertation and a web page about someone else that mentions him in passing) do not contribute to notability according to Wikipedia's standards for notability, which are not based on the work the subject might have done but rather on the depth of coverage of the subject in sources that are independent of him and meet Wikipedia's standards for reliable publication. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:55, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Incidentally, I can find no evidence that Kade Ferris had any connection to Lebanon, outside of a few unreliable web sources. I have removed the link to him from the Lebanese village article. His mother was from Minnesota and his father was originally from the Turtle Mountain Reservation. I suspect his father, Albert Ferris, may have some notability as an artist. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:14, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I just came across this AfD and don't entirely feel experienced enough with guidelines to vote either way, but I'd like to note that Ferris' work on map decolonization and geographic technologies (as THPO for the Red Lake Nation) was significant enough that he gave a full-fledged presentation at the Council for Minnesota Archaeology's 2023 annual conference, entitled "Creating a Virtual Database for Regional Tribal Resource Management and Consultation". I don't know if, for example, a program (with an abstract of his talk) from the conference (the most important one on Minnesota archaeology, as far as I know) would count towards GNG, but I do have such a document if uploading it somewhere could prove useful. Thanks. SunTunnels (talk) 21:41, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 15:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)- Recheck the article. It's completely fine now. Yuchitown (talk) 03:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Heung Kong Group[edit]
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Unremarkable company UKWikiGuy (talk) 15:38, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as it fails WP:NCORP. - Amigao (talk) 22:50, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I conducted a brief search and located numerous Chinese sources with SIGCOV, including but not limited to Securities Times[51], Xinhua News Agency[52], Wen Wei Po[53], Hong Kong Commercial Daily[54], Sing Tao Daily[55], HK01[56], and China National Radio[57]. Sufficient to fulfill GNG. @Amigao: Please take a look at the newly located sources. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 07:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Keemokazi[edit]
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Nothing here to meet WP:GNG. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:14, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Dr. Bro[edit]
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I had double thoughts before finally agreeing that the notability of this article is very questionable. Firstly having many subscribers or views on YouTube doesnt credibly means the article is notable. There is nothing whatsoever credible about this article. There are some promotional contents in the article. For me, it doesnt meet WP:GNG, and such, I may decline in an AFC review. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:11, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Keep It looks like there are some decent references and he has over 2 million subscribers, but I think cleanup is needed to solidify notability here. Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 15:28, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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The Adventures of Massey Ferguson[edit]
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Appears to fail WP:NTV and WP:GNG DonaldD23 talk to me 15:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Jim Mora (broadcaster): mentioned there. I personally would rather keep this and have added a few things (see page) but it might not be enough in terms of independent coverage. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:02, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, per nom. Alexeyevitch(talk) 07:29, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Aref Jalayeri[edit]
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Doesn't meet WP:NMUSICBIO. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. I agree that the article does not show any information warranting nobility, nor do the sources. Coulomb1 (talk) 14:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete as written. Entirely dependent on below-par sources. BD2412 T 14:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Emmymade[edit]
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Non notable article that doesnt meet WP:ENT. Sometimes celebrities may appear in trivial mentions, which doesnt mean they meet WP:SIRS. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify. The TechCrunch and Hollywood Reporter sources are the most passing of passing mentions. The Daily Dot piece is substantial, but smacks of churnalism. BD2412 T 14:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Maksud Agadjani[edit]
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Non notable promotional article. It doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 14:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, and per absence of reliable sources. BD2412 T 14:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Oh dear. Hard delete. Mccapra (talk) 18:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete wildly promotional and does not pass WP:GNG. Best, GPL93 (talk) 14:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Ajagun Olusegun Peter[edit]
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Fails WP:NACADEMIC, WP:NAUTHOR, or WP:GNG. No evidence of established notability. Sources are WP:ROTM and WP:ROUTINE coverages, some being dependent on the subject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 14:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Doesnt meet WP:NACADEMIC. Sources appears to be his appointment to a non notable organization in Abuja, Nigeria. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 15:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
EGM Green[edit]
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Third time's a charm, I hope. This company has somehow survived two AfDs despite failing the notability guidelines for companies. The available sources are thinly-veiled press releases, not providing genuinely independent coverage. – Teratix ₵ 13:06, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- I agree with you that the sources are not very reliable and they (including the article itself) all seem like a big advetisement. Have you found any good sources anywhere that are reliable? Because I don't believe this exactly needs to be deleted, but it might be able to be improved. Coulomb1 (talk) 14:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've had a thorough look in all the usual places you'd expect to find sources on this sort of company and found no decent sources. They're all either associated with the company or regurgitating its press releases. – Teratix ₵ 14:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think a delete is a viable option. Everything about this corporation is a big ad. Coulomb1 (talk) 14:23, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've had a thorough look in all the usual places you'd expect to find sources on this sort of company and found no decent sources. They're all either associated with the company or regurgitating its press releases. – Teratix ₵ 14:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Connor Rennie[edit]
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Fails GNG. A search through the Gale/newspapers.com/proquest and BNA archives found no SIGCOV of Rennie. Dougal18 (talk) 12:56, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Angela Jerabek[edit]
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Poorly written promotional article about an academic not shown to meet WP:NACADEMIC or WP:ANYBIO. The page's sole purpose appears to be to promote an educational model with little peer-reviewed research to back up its efficacy.Blanes tree (talk) 12:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Angela Jerabek just won the James Bryant Conant award, given to one American educator annually in recognition of their contributions to American education. Previous awardees include Thurgood Marshall, Fred Rogers, Claiborne Pell, and Miriam Wright Edelman.
- The American Institutes for Research reviewed the BARR model for three years, across three separate studies funded by the U.S. Department of Education, and found it to improve educational outcomes across numerous measurements. AIR's scale-up study, for example, was an independent review of 21,500 students in 69 schools. Most educational models cannot withstand this level of scrutiny. Among their findings:
- "The BARR approach had substantial and statistically significant impacts on the proportion of students who passed all their core courses."
- "BARR significantly reduced chronic absenteeism."
- "The BARR approach improved teachers’ collaboration with their peers, their data use, and a range of other teacher outcomes."
- Here is the report. Here is the actual PDF report.
- This model was also the only educational model to move through all three stages of federal government review in the I3 program. This article from the widely respected industry publication The Hechinger Report (a publication of the non-profit Hechinger Institute on Education and the Media) outlines the general failure of the 170 educational grantees to meet the program criteria. The one exception: BARR. It names the BARR model as the "poster child" for what the grant was intended to fund.
- The above reading of this article is factually uninformed about how educational models are reviewed and how important the BARR model is nationally at this time. Gtatum (talk) 14:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- KEEP Gtatum (talk) 14:34, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. I am uncertain about the Conant award. But the NPR piece included in a bunch of refbombing at the bottom [58] appears to be a start towards WP:SIGCOV for a GNG case. I also see a MinnPost article [59] that looks like reasonable coverage. I agree that the article is in somewhat poor shape, although I don't think it's so bad as for WP:TNT. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 14:37, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Midwest Rugby League[edit]
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Article has minimal sources and said sources only talk about exhibition games ahead of planed launches of the competition. Google search only bring up the Wikipedia page, Facebook page, and USARL Page which has nothing on it. Fails WP:GNG. Mn1548 (talk) 11:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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BLEND[edit]
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The article doesn't show notability, and a WP:BEFORE search didn't find anything that would meet WP:ORGCRIT. It's all routine announcements and trivial coverage, mainly in press releases. bonadea contributions talk 10:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama (of AP Sunnis)[edit]
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The previous history of the organization Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama, which was formed in 1926[60], was corrected on the page In 1989[61], a new organization was formed after resigning from this organization due to differences in ideas And the person who wrote the article made a full correction on the first page intentionally / for his own people (WP:CONFLICT),WP:PE and added the previous established year to the new page and wrote the new page in a promotional style. More content from the first page is also included in the new page ~ Spworld2 (talk) 16:18, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Do not delete page on Hitler, USA, Samastha of AP Sunnis and EK Sunnis just because there are people who have COI. Content is to determined using the reliable sources. I am neutral in this. That is why I say "(of AP Sunnis)" and "(EK Sunnis)". Both the AP and EK Sunnis claim their respective Samasthas is the real one. I can show that. So accepting one group's only claim could be CONFLICT OF INTEREST, especially in Wikipedia where Ahmadiyyas are categorised alongside Muslims. Reliable sources call Samastha of AP Sunnis "Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama".I am sorry to say calling for its deletion must be nothing other than COI since reliable sources do not support that claim. Neutralhappy (talk) 11:10, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Very reliable The Hindu calls the Samastha of AP Sunnis "Samastha Kerala Jamiyyathul Ulama". There are numerous other sources that say the same. Neutralhappy (talk) 11:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Dool News calls Samastha of AP Sunnis a Samastha (AP Samastha).
- Mathrubhumi.com calls Samastha of AP Sunnis a Samastha (AP Samastha)
- Times of India also calls Samastha of AP Sunnis a Samastha. Moreover this terms the Samastha "Samastha Kerala Jem Iyyathul Ulama"
- Scroll.in says there are two different Samasthas
- OnManorama.com calls the Samastha of AP Sunnis a Samastha and mentions "Samastha Kerala Jem-iyyathul Ulama"
- News 18 says there are two Samasthas.
- Arab News calls Samastha of AP Sunnis a "Samastha"
- The New Indian Express calls Samastha of AP Sunnis "Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama".
- Manoramanews.com says there are two Samasthas.
- Thejas News calls Kanthapuram's Samatha is Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama.
- Kerala Kaumudi calls AP Sunnis' Samastha "Samastha Kerala Je-iyyathul Ulama"
- Neutralhappy (talk) 13:46, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- See also:
- Neutralhappy (talk) 02:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: The organization has been featured on the websites of many reliable newspapers including The Hindu. Youknow? (talk) 07:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Slávka Frniaková[edit]
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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2000 Summer Olympics#Basketball as ATD because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this women's basketball player to meet WP:GNG.
I am also nominating fellow Slovakia women's basketball teammates at said tournament for the same reason, except Zuzana Žirková, as most of them seem to fall under BLP1E:
- Martina Godályová (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Renáta Hiráková (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Dagmar Huťková (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Marcela Kalistová (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Anna Kotočová (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Alena Kováčová (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Lívia Libičová (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jana Lichnerová (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Martina Luptáková (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Katarína Poláková (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Basketball is a popular and very well-covered sport. I would be shocked if all of these were lacking coverage. For that reason, nominating Olympic basketball players en masse is not a good idea. Suggest procedural keep with the possibility of individual renominations. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:24, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- None of these are BLP1E as well. All of them had significant accomplishments in order to get to the Olympics. E.g. Martina Godalyova (randomly selected) was a 12-time national champion in multiple countries and led MBK Ružomberok to consecutive EuroLeague Women championships. I suspect many, maybe even a majority, would be notable, the issue is finding digitized 1990s Slovakian newspapers... BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Another one, Anna Kotočová, competed at two further Olympics and was inducted into the French Basketball Hall of Fame! BeanieFan11 (talk) 18:05, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- None of these are BLP1E as well. All of them had significant accomplishments in order to get to the Olympics. E.g. Martina Godalyova (randomly selected) was a 12-time national champion in multiple countries and led MBK Ružomberok to consecutive EuroLeague Women championships. I suspect many, maybe even a majority, would be notable, the issue is finding digitized 1990s Slovakian newspapers... BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:32, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- As a start, keep the following: Kotočová (1988, 1992 and 2000 Olympian); Luptáková and Hiráková (1992 and 2000 Olympian); Lichnerová (played in the WNBA); Kováčová (won the Euroleague in 2005-06). This is on the presumption of coverage, yes, but I'll let that fly as the nomination is too large to handle them all anyway. Plus, Beaniefan started digging up some things. I have no opinion on the rest of the players yet, though I have a general opinion: Bundled nominations almost always fail nowadays and should be removed as a feature in AFD, actually. They are nothing but a waste of time. Geschichte (talk) 21:40, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Disagree with this generalization, but as things go the bigger the bulk, the less likely it will pass muster. Let'srun (talk) 04:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Happy to keep Kotočová, Luptáková, Hiráková, and Lichner then. Not sure about the other players. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 09:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep all: After a spot review, several of these players appear to at the very least not fall into WP:BLP1E and may potentially be notable under WP:BIO. No prejudice against speedy renominating individual players. Let'srun (talk) 04:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Clariniie, it doesn't appear like the articles in this bundled nomination have been tagged for this AFD or that this AFD discussion has been formatted correctly which makes it invalid. Have you informed all of the article creators of this discussion? Bundled nominations are tricky so please follow all of the instructions at WP:AFD for a bundled nomination, especially regarding formatting. Liz Read! Talk! 04:26, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Liz: I usually informed article creators about the nomination. However, since this might be my first time making bundled nominations, I didn't notice the other pages listed weren't nominated. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 09:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
1958 East Pakistan-India border clash[edit]
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Still fails WP:N. It is yet another skirmish with no lasting impact. This new creation is itself 80% copy of the earlier article which was deleted after the last AfD. There is no change in the sourcing. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 10:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
What should be done to the article to prevent deletion? And, there was another article similar to this, that was deleted? Clarify. User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (User talk:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet) (Talk of Georgethedragonslayer) 6:28, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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- @BangladeshiEditorInSylhet: By "earlier article" I believe Georgethedragonslayer is referring to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1958 East Pakistan–India border skirmish, which was deleted in March 2023. --Worldbruce (talk) 08:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Worldbruce: Alright, I read the discussion, I get it, I will try to do something.
Joyce brothers[edit]
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The term "Joyce brothers" does not appear in any of the four brothers mentioned here. Google results for the term, even with words like "psychologist" and "doctor" removed, still return the more famous Joyce Brothers, but no James or anyone else. Should be a redirect targeted to her and labeled {{r from miscapitalization}}, as I think that result would be far less surprising for readers (I certainly wasn't expecting it). I would oppose a hatnote as I think this is all a bit too silly to exist in any form, but if it's insisted upon then I'm willing to renege. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:27, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Speaking of surprise, I was not expecting this to have been up at RfD just this month. Quite the hot button issue I suppose. Looking at that discussion, I don't think it should've been closed as early as it was, so I will argue against a procedural close of this as I think the issue is unresolved. Pinging Shhhnotsoloud, jnestorius, 162 etc., and Presidentman who participated, and * Pppery * who closed, as it's only fair if I'm going to claim this as a continuing discussion. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 09:34, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep as per previous discussion. I am neutral on renaming to Joyce brothers (disambiguation) as long as there is a {{redirect}} hatnote from Joyce Brothers. jnestorius(talk) 10:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I'm 100% in favour of deleting this, but opening an AfD immediately following a consensus at the RfD discussion isn't the right way to do it. WP:MRV would be your next step. 162 etc. (talk) 16:33, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- The correct venue for challenging a closure at WP:RFD would be WP:DRV not WP:MRV. But I have no objection to my RfD closure being undone and the RfD relisted - looking back at it with a clearer head I agree my restore closure really doesn't properly reflect the consensus so you don't need to use any formal review processes. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Had I seen the RfD first, I would've done just that. My mistake for not doing so. Bit too late for it now, but I'm glad you're aware and hopefully it helps your process in the future. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- The correct venue for challenging a closure at WP:RFD would be WP:DRV not WP:MRV. But I have no objection to my RfD closure being undone and the RfD relisted - looking back at it with a clearer head I agree my restore closure really doesn't properly reflect the consensus so you don't need to use any formal review processes. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the consensus at RfD (now I've seen jnestorius's rationale). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 18:25, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. The fundamental question here is: will this aid readers in finding something for which they might be searching. Yes, yes it will. BD2412 T 21:13, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- See, but I very much disagree with this. Sure, readers might be searching for the famous writer James Joyce and his far less famous brother, or the other two brothers, or they could (and I think far more likely are; see the page views where Dr. Brothers consistently gets hundreds of times the viewership as the brothers other than James) looking for the famous psychologist with this exact name. If we're desparate to keep this, then jnestorius' suggestion to add "(disambiguation)" might be useful, but regardless I don't see how this isn't a SURPRISE issue. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:14, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Mosab Al Khateeb[edit]
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Moved from WP:AFC after decline, fails WP:NSINGER. Theroadislong (talk) 08:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as notability is not established. As this has already been deleted and then declined at AfC I don’t think there’s any point in draftifying. Mccapra (talk) 11:37, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Dokibird[edit]
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All the coverage in the article is from February 2024 when she left the entertainment company Nijisanji. Beyond that, I've found two reliable sources that do not cover this topic (Siliconera 1, Siliconera 2). Wikipedia's notability criteria discourages articles on people notable for only one event, which this article seems to cover. Most of the content featured in the article also seems to be a content fork of the article Nijisanji. I suggest deleting the article or turning it into a redirect to the Nijisanji article. ArcticSeeress (talk) 08:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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FC Oțelul II Galați[edit]
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Redirect to ASC Oțelul Galați. A short-lived reserve team that never achieved notability on its own. Geschichte (talk) 07:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect per nom. By the way you don’t need an AfD discussion for a redirect. Mccapra (talk) 11:39, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - I would like to port some of the information from this article to the future 'parent' article. Do we have an example of how a 2nd team is described as part of the main article of a team? LaUr3nTiU (talk) 13:22, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Haarlem Kennemerland[edit]
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Redirect to HFC Haarlem. The team, which plays on a very low level, has not achieved notability on its own. Instead, the page exclusively repeats information already contained in the HFC Haarlem article. Geschichte (talk) 07:23, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. On notability this would be a very easy keep. The repetition claim, however, has some merit. I'll research and consider it some more. gidonb (talk) 05:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep If it stays alive it will general coverage over time, and you shouldn't redirect to a disbanded club article with a phoenix club article. There is basic coverage around, enough so to warrant the article. Govvy (talk) 09:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Nike Indoor Nationals[edit]
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Also nominating Nike Outdoor Nationals (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch.
Reviewed during NPP. All 3 sources are from the event's official website, and I found no sources online that establish notability. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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DeleteKeep.I agree that there are no good sources, and that its near impossible to find a reliable source talking about the Nike Indoor Nationals.Turns out there are some good sources talking about it. A lot of @Habst's sources are about the Nike Outdoor nationals, but they still provided a good number of articles about the Indoor Nationals. The sources aren't really fully about the event specifically, but I believe they're still fine articles to use. Coulomb1 (talk) 14:20, 10 July 2024 (UTC)- Keep, because the event meets WP:GNG as an important prep athletics championship. Responding to the concerns by @CanonNi and @Coulomb1, there's plenty of independent coverage from The Washington Post, New York Times, The Post-Standard, MileSplit, The Journal News, Bozeman Daily Chronicle The Cullman Times, and many more. --Habst (talk) 16:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- All of my links were for the indoor nationals – for the outdoor nationals, there's even more coverage from LetsRun.com, Track & Field News, The Santa-Cruz Sentinel, Eugene Register-Guard, MileSplit, etc. --Habst (talk) 16:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't know how this slipped past me. I have no problem with keeping this article then. Coulomb1 (talk) 14:27, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- All of my links were for the indoor nationals – for the outdoor nationals, there's even more coverage from LetsRun.com, Track & Field News, The Santa-Cruz Sentinel, Eugene Register-Guard, MileSplit, etc. --Habst (talk) 16:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
List of video games with gyro features[edit]
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Seems like stealth WP:SPAM from a WP:SPA and fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE anyway, as there are too many games with gyro features to reliably list without it being undue effort for editors, including games that use gyro controls for completely trivial things, like emoting in Bloodborne. It is also written like an essay. This is the kind of over-listification we don't need. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- I understand how it can seem like stealth WP:SPAM, since gyro is such a poorly documented feature, most sources will inevitably be from Jibb Smart, the (only) person who did the most amount of research about this topic. He is a trusted source who currently works at Epic Games, and he created the gold standard for modern gyro.
- I don't understand how it can be WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Explanations, and context were given for every section of the list, it's clear what each thing means, and having Wikipedia as a place for this list would ensure that people will find important information that wasn't extensively documented by the publisher of that game, as well as explaining how gyro works on most games, increasing the knowledge of the reader about this topic.
- I agree that too many games use gyro controls for trivial things, I was thinking of a way to exclude such cases, while only including the cases where it was used for Aiming, Steering, Controlling a cursor, and minigames. So games like The Last of Us, where you need to shake the controller to turn the flashlight on, or emoting on Bloodborne would not be included. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 14:14, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify, but nom should be incredibly careful about throwing around insulting terms like spam to what is, in reality, probably just an enthusiast - WP:AGF! That aside though, I don't think segmenting video games by feature is a good WP:LISTCRIT because it essentially ends up being a list of most video games on any games consoles that have a gyroscope - that's all VR games, pretty much all Wii games, and most Switch games. The sourcing here is also generally inappropriate - presentation slides from a "how-to" talk are primary sources, and lean towards articles violating WP:NOTHOWTO. This is clearly not an article appropriate for mainspace.
- I don't think everything in this article should be blown up though, hence my vote. With a better LISTCRIT (perhaps just consoles?) and the removal of the OR, I think this could stand. BrigadierG (talk) 16:42, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I explicitly omitted VR games in the introduction because their use of gyro features isn't the same as traditional use on normal consoles, and the console's list states that the Wii remote doesn't have a gyro sensor, so only a handful of games on the Wii support gyro because gyro was only introduced later with the Wii Motion Plus accessory. The argument that there would be just too many games to list, and that would be just a "list of most games of certain platforms" shows how little information people have about this feature and what it does, and the importance of this article in the first place.
- If the wording of this article leaves space for this kind of confusion, perhaps it would be better to simply change the name and specify in the introduction what is considered a game "with" or "without" gyro features.
- If there's a problem with the sources, I can use different ones, but most of them come from the same person (Jibb Smart), with a similar format, because it is the only place and format where this information was compiled and tested.
- I also don't understand how it violates the WP:NOTHOWTO because the article doesn't teach anything, it just shares information, the source of that information happens to be from a "how to" presentation. Also, I don't understand how it doesn't make a good WP:LISTCRIT, when a similar list for the Wii Motion Plus accessory exists: List of games that support Wii MotionPlus. This list essentially is "every Wii/WiiU Game that supports gyro features" and it's been up since 2011. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 18:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest changing the subject of this list to "All games with gyro aiming", which would narrow it down to a single widely sought-after feature and fit better into the categories on the list, although the concepts in each section of this list can also be used for other things, like a steering and control a mouse cursor. This would also remove most of the Wii library and clear up any confusion with the title of this page. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 19:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- First of all, I want to say thank you for contributing to Wikipedia - it is excellent to have more motivated editors working on fields that they have a lot of experience documenting. That said, there are quite a few issues with this article that go beyond the selection criteria and I think will require a major overhaul to rectify. This article as it stands right now is WP:SYNTH - and the research you've done on the topic (although thorough) is ultimately original. This article as-is can't stand in mainspace, and I would recommend submitting through WP:AFC rather than moving directly to mainspace.
- I think you should take a real close read of WP:OR and WP:RS. BrigadierG (talk) 09:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest changing the subject of this list to "All games with gyro aiming", which would narrow it down to a single widely sought-after feature and fit better into the categories on the list, although the concepts in each section of this list can also be used for other things, like a steering and control a mouse cursor. This would also remove most of the Wii library and clear up any confusion with the title of this page. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 19:11, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. This list would be massive it was correctly populated with all the Wii and Nintendo Switch games out there. There's mobile games, VG games, etc etc. The scope won't work. Sergecross73 msg me 20:40, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Is anyone reading the actual page or any of my comments? The Wii does not have a gyro sensor. A very limited list of games of that platform would be included on the list, more precisely 54 of 2560 games. This is written in the "Platform" section. The Wii Remote Wiki page also states the same information. In fact, the list that is already there, already includes most of the games that would qualify to be on that list, and that is certainly not every Wii game or every Switch game.
- I would understand if the concern was that the explanation given on the article leaves room for this kind of misconception, so a solution would be to simply refine what's already there. But so far, the deletion requests are coming from people who don't know what Gyro is, this is a baseless concern, that is already addressed in the page itself, that only goes to show how people could benefit from the information contained on this article. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 22:19, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see the term gyroscope peppered through the Wii Remote article, so I'm not sure I'm following how that's not a "gyro feature", but regardless, that was a relatively small part of my overall argument that would still stand even if the Wii is somehow not relevant. Sergecross73 msg me 23:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Quick correction: Only Wii Remote Plus or Wii Remote's Motion Plus accessory has gyroscope capabiltiies. Actual usage of gyorscope in Wii titles are rare (obviously) and it's often a requirement for these titles, but on top of my head: Wii Sports Resort and The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword.
- if you ask me: this entire "list" should become Gyroscopic control (gaming) while the *real* List of video games with gyro features should only be a list. and I have gave that feedback directly to Ivan in a separate social media site/group thingin. AL2009man (talk) 00:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- The Wii Remote doesn't have a gyro sensor, uses only an accelerometer and an IR sensor. Gyro was indeed introduced later with the Motion Plus accessory, so the list of games that support this accessory is very limited. So no, not every Wii game uses gyro, Motion Controls (accelerometer) and Motion Controls (Gyroscopes) are 2 different things that lead to different results.
- Regardless, as I said above. I understand the concern with the scope of this article, I feel the biggest problem is in the premise being too broad. If this article was called "List of console games with gyro aim", would that help? It would narrow it down to a single widely sought-after feature and fit better into the categories on the list, although the concepts in each section can also be used for other things, like a steering and control a mouse cursor. This would also remove most of the Wii library, low effort mobile games and VR games, thus clearing up any confusion with the title and premise. Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 00:23, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, still multiple issues to address:
- This article uses a lot of unreliable/unusable sources. For example, any wikis would fail WP:USERG. That all needs to go.
- Every entry needs to be reliably sourced. See WP:VG/S for the sorts of sources that are usable or unusable. Are we really going to be able to do this with this subject?
- Lists should meet WP:NLIST. That requires better sourcing too. Are there WP:VG/S approved sources that do this?
- I have serious concerns about all of these points, especially since, by your own admission, gyro is such a poorly documented feature. That is absolutelynot a way one would want to describe the subject of their Wikipedia article. Sergecross73 msg me 00:35, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I see. Usually everything about gyro is documented by the community, because the stigma around this feature is enough for it to not be listed anywhere in any official capacity. I can try to address these issues, but if I can't, I guess I will have to search for another place to do this. Thank you so much for your time and for being the only person to actually reply to anything I asked on this site. I sent multiple messages throughout the process to my "mentor" to make sure if I wasn't falling on these pitfalls, and no one answered. Anyway, Thank you! Ivan Iovine Monteiro (talk) 00:59, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, still multiple issues to address:
- I see the term gyroscope peppered through the Wii Remote article, so I'm not sure I'm following how that's not a "gyro feature", but regardless, that was a relatively small part of my overall argument that would still stand even if the Wii is somehow not relevant. Sergecross73 msg me 23:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify and move – after figuring out "gyros" isn't referring to Greek cuisine (somehow I totally misread the title at first), I think the prose section could be a good starting point for an article about gyroscopes in video games (after some major cleanup), but the list section is too indiscriminate. For the few games where gyroscopic features are particularly relevant, they could be discussed in prose. So I would support moving to draftspace, but only if the article is overhauled with a different focus and the article title is changed to the general topic instead of a list. AL2009man's suggestion of Gyroscopic control (gaming) would work, as would something like Gyroscopes in video games. RunningTiger123 (talk) 02:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was speedy delete. Article creator requested G7 as well. – robertsky (talk) 14:30, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
2019 Hyderabad Flyover Accident[edit]
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Reviewed during NPP. WP:NOTNEWS applies as there are no WP:LASTING effects. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
delete Lorenzo1235 (talk) 08:12, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Yossi Elran[edit]
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One of a number of BLP recently created directly to main space by קוונטום דוץ. Multiple editors have pointed out issues with these such as notability, sourcing, refbombing. This is perhaps the weakest. Lecturer with an h-factor of 8, no major awards, no major mentions, weak independent sourcing and many unsourced paragraphs. Ldm1954 (talk) 06:48, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Citations too low for WP:PROF#C1 and no other PROF criterion apparent. I did find one sort-of-published book review, by notable reviewer Adhemar Bultheel on the now-defunct book review site of the European Mathematical Society [62], but that's not enough by itself for WP:AUTHOR. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:58, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest that we will examine your behavior, then each and every of your claims. There have been elapsed 32 minutes since the moment you marked the entry until you put it under discussion for deletion. I assume your were so insulted by my comment in your talk page that you've determined to teach me a lesson. Ok, well. Let us now examine your comments one by one:
- 1. "Multiple editors have pointed out issues with these such as notability, sourcing, refbombing" - there were only issues in Eli Jerby and you were the one that have decided to crusade the entry. Refbombing? are you serious? to cite academic articles is refbombing?
- 2. "Lecturer with an h-factors of 8" - Yossi Elran is mainly notable not as a scientist but as an educator. h-index (and not h-factor, I expect you to know that) is irrelevant in this case.
- 3. "No major awards" - I understand that you have a fantastic aquaintance with all the awards and accolades in education and science journalism.
- 4. "Weak independent sourcing" - sorry, I don't have plenty of times like you to mend an entry within 32 minutes.
- Have a wonderful day. קוונטום דוץ (talk) 07:15, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- pls delete page thanks Lorenzo1235 (talk) 08:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- pls keep or delete page thanks Lorenzo1235 (talk) 08:19, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- pls delete page thanks Lorenzo1235 (talk) 08:17, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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Indians in Luxembourg[edit]
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Fails GNG, 2 of the 3 sources are dead. The estimated population is very small at around 1000, and no significant coverage of their contribution to Luxembourg society. LibStar (talk) 06:00, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- I think we should consider renaming this to the Indian Association of Luxembourg.
- There appears to be significant sourcing for that at least.
- [63] [64] [65] Bluethricecreamman (talk) 03:55, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- K added a few sources, but still not convinced its quite notable. This article still has massive amounts of texts that are unsourced. As far as I can tell, its mostly been anon IPs adding random bits of info. Bluethricecreamman (talk) 04:06, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
- If nobody else can find useful sourcing, i'll vote Delete Bluethricecreamman (talk) 06:02, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Antonio Telari[edit]
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Does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT, Sports biographies must include at least one reference to a source providing significant coverage of the subject, excluding database sources. C679 04:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – With only database sources listed, this article is certainly not notable. He only played one match at senior level before playing in lower leagues then disappeared. All I could find were a passing mention and unrelated politician named Michele Telari. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 10:41, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
Eastport, Idaho[edit]
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Just like the Kingsgate article, I propose that we redirect this one into the Eastport–Kingsgate Border Crossing article. There's only a few sources, and I feel that a couple of sentences can fit in the border crossing rather than being placed in an article that feels like a stub with nothing interesting or pleasing to the reader. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 03:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. See historic images here. See this United States government report: https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/master/pnp/habshaer/id/id0100/id0128/data/id0128data.pdf More coverage of Eastport: https://bonnersferryherald.com/search/vertical/news.story/?q=Eastport From Medium.com: https://medium.com/@cheri_28877/canadian-border-crossing-eastport-idaho-69df61947348 Also, https://boundary.idgenweb.org/history/post/eastport-idaho Eastmain (talk • contribs) 04:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Note that WP:MEDIUM is generally considered unreliable. No comment on the other sources. Let'srun (talk) 02:04, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- merge/expand The issue here is really that now the border crossing has basically co-opted the town. I think the latter makes the most sense as a section within the crossing article rather than as a separate article. Also, I have to point out that the only "good" source here, that is, the only one that has content which could be used as the basis for writing article text, is not likely to cut the mustard as a reliable source, given the lack of authorship info and citations. Mangoe (talk) 04:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- I agree with the proposed redirection, I feel it will make the page more useful. 24vikie (talk) 21:18, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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Maryam Rostampour and Marziyeh Amirizadeh[edit]
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Opening this deletion discussion per WP:BLPREQUESTDELETE on the talk page (here). Would love to hear editors' thoughts going forward. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: I would urge anyone who comments in this discussion to look on the talk page from (one of) the subjects of the article. GnocchiFan (talk) 16:48, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is too notable to delete. Maryam Rostampour is arguably notable as well, despite the fact that Marziyeh Amirizadeh is the only one of the two with continuing coverage. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 01:15, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh exists as a draft. Assuming that both women are notable, perhaps Draft:Marziyeh Amirizadeh could be added to article space after any necessary improvements are made, and this article could be moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller (her current name), thereby preserving the edit history. Eastmain (talk • contribs) 08:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- If agreement is that there is enough information to split, I think this is a good idea. Otherwise, I think that Marziyeh Amirizadeh's name be removed from this article per request and this article moved to Maryam Rostamour-Keller per your suggestion. GnocchiFan (talk) 22:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Split I think it is reasonable to have this specific article deleted. However, I would be open to the thought of having a separate article for Maryam Rostampour if she is notable enough. Marziyeh Amirizadeh on the surface level appears to be a notable figure (I have not done much research into her life though), so I would be more comfortable with having a separate article for her. ❤HistoryTheorist❤ 18:35, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- A person claiming to be one of the subjects of the article requested that it be deleted because they don't want to be associated with the other person? The title is probably inappropriate and would be more appropriate as something else but this does appear to be a notable event. Traumnovelle (talk) 22:11, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note that the editor claiming to be the subject says on the talk page that she paid $300 to have her Wikipedia article written. Is this the current draft, created by an editor who has edited no other topic? PamD 22:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to Evin Prison. This is a case of WP:BLP1E; Rostampour and Amirizadeh got a lot of coverage related to their prison ordeal and release, but it wasn't sustained. Amirizadeh's run for state office wouldn't be independently notable. With the apparent request for deletion by one of the subjects, the balance tilts more strongly to delete. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:41, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Thriller (Fall Out Boy song)[edit]
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The article is based on album reviews for Infinity on High. so it doesn't establish a separate WP:SIGCOV. I searched sources independently and I found two, both from NME,[66][67] one written from Patrick Stump's point of view and the other from Pete Wentz's view. Those sources don't say anything different from what is already said by the sources present in the article. And Infinity on High mentions part of the article's content anyway. (CC) Tbhotch™ 03:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Infinity on High: sources in article only make very brief mentions of the song, and the same goes for the two NME articles the nominator linked. Nowhere near enough for an independent article. I wouldn't oppose a merger if there are any valuable statements included here which aren't already in the album article. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 03:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Meets WP:GNG - The article is comprehensive and there is commentary about the song in multiple reliable sources. Slant Magazine, Northern Valley Suburbanite, Alternative Press, Guitar.com. Additionally the song leads with an introduction from Jay Z which garnered much press like in the Los Angeles Times and other major media outlets.Note, as the article's main author I was not notified of this AfD. Bruxton (talk) 04:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- In the past I would have said the same. The article itself is not the issue, but the sources are. They are all about the album, so the critics naturally write about the songs featured in the album from that perspective. For example, "I've Got All This Ringing in My Ears and None on My Fingers" is also mentioned by two of the sources you included and some sources included at Infinity on High, but that doesn't mean we should have an article for it. This was practically the conclusion reached at previous AFD discussions like Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Red Hot Kinda Love, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't Let Me Down (Leona Lewis song), Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/My Hands. A good example of how this is reversed is Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bloody Mary (Lady Gaga song), a song that was marignally notable when it was released, but that gained independent notability after an external event created that notability; that is, being used in a TV series and secondary sources discussing it independently from the album. (CC) Tbhotch™ 05:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Merge (into Infinity on High) - it has good info, but I agree with the nom. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 06:31, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I came here from DYK and I am the editor who approved this article's nomination when it ran on the main page. During the approval process many editors, administrators and readers vetted the article. The article clearly meets our general notability guide. A topic is "notable" if there is enough usable coverage of it in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject, to write a good encyclopedic article. I think that is what we have here, a good encyclopedic article about the song, based on multiple secondary sources. Lightburst (talk) 01:48, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- You can refer to WP:NSONGS: "Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability." (CC) Tbhotch™ 03:47, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- We should not focus on the SNG - WP:NSONG, according to WP:N
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I believe that it meets GNG based on the RS. Lightburst (talk) 04:06, 7 July 2024 (UTC)- Sadly, they are not a reason to keep the page alone. Some sources are trivial and none of the sources present is about the song alone; they are about the album, regardless on how you'd like to word it. As I said before, just because the sources at Infinity on High#References mention songs like Don't You Know Who I Think I Am?, I've Got All This Ringing in My Ears and None on My Fingers, or Bang the Doldrums, we have to create their articles based on album reviews that trivially reviewed them from the album's perspective, like it occured with Thriller (Fall Out Boy song).
- On the talk page I left the sources review. I don't see the independent, non-trivial, non-passing mentions content that indicate significant coverage that is independent from the parent album. I see sources speaking about the song from the album's context focusing on being named after a Michael Jackson album and inadvertently having a rap intro by Jay-Z, both facts that can be covered by the album's composition section.
- As much as you'd like to keep the page, this hadn't had to run on the main page in the first place and you made a mistake by approving an article built on trivialities. Proof of this is the fact that this song hasn't been discussed by critics in subsequent releases thoroughly and it needs to have a background that doesn't even mention the song and has to rely exclusively on trivial album mentions. (CC) Tbhotch™ 04:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- You have made seven edits to the article and you have typed 6527 characters (1062 words) in an effort to remove an article that is only 2963 characters (517 words). This AfD time-suck is an example of why I am not as active in deletion lately. You have lost credibility in your source assessment because I randomly looked at #9: you referred to three full paragraphs discussing the song as a passing mention. And #15 you refer to an article which features this song as one of 15 heaviest songs as a passing mention. I am not going to focus on all the WP:OTHERSTUFF arguments. Also I really need to start observing WP:COAL and maybe you should too. Lightburst (talk) 19:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
- We should not focus on the SNG - WP:NSONG, according to WP:N
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Notcoin[edit]
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Procedural nomination per WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 June 11#Notcoin, as the redirect target of Telegram (software), or any other target, was not found suitable. The page had been moved to draftspace on the day of its creation, as not ready for mainspace, however the creator had rejected the draftification. Jay 💬 06:23, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 05:58, 26 June 2024 (UTC)- Merge to Telegram: Significant coverage in BBC Pidgin and likely in the non-English articles as well (which I cannot read). Telegram article is long but could easily accommodate a short section on the game, which seems to have drawn attention. Mrfoogles (talk) 07:26, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- Delete what is this? A game? A crypto-coin? A ponzi scheme? The sources don't say (and are largely about a related game called "Hamster Combat"), which demonstrates that there is insufficiently substantial coverage. Walsh90210 (talk) 18:57, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
- I am opposed to a redirect to Telegram (software). If this content were on the Telegram article, I would remove it as WP:UNDUE and inherently somewhat promotional. Walsh90210 (talk) 23:59, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: The Persian article has همستر کامبت (Hamster Kombat) as the article subject: https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%87%D9%85%D8%B3%D8%AA%D8%B1_%DA%A9%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%A8%D8%AA Hamster Kombat and Notcoin seem like they are separate crypto games on Telegram? From machine translation and the images, the sources cited in the English article, like this one, appear to be about Hamster Kombat or crypto games in general, not about Notcoin. For a redirect, Telegram (software) seems an appropriate target. I'll abstain from voting, though, because I can't read most of the coverage on these games. Rjjiii (talk) 02:24, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to The Open Network (TON). The Persian-language sources seem to be primarily about a hamster-related game of a different name that employs the Notcoin/"Natcoin" token. But I'm not seeing WP:SIGCOV for Notcoin itself, at least not in sources that clear WP:NCRYPTO; however, WP:TRADES sources ([68], [69]) do show evidence that it's a major game/token on TON, so as an AtD that redirect makes sense. Like Walsh90210 I would oppose a redirect to Telegram. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:27, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Yet more unimportant cryptotrash. Nate • (chatter) 16:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- delete. fails general notability guideline. subject of article is also unfocused. ltbdl (talk) 06:54, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete – what an unholy mess. Plainly not remotely suitably sourced, and the article content wanders all over the place. Draftify if the user wants, but since they don't seem to want that, deletion is the right option. Possibly salt so they don't do it again. Or block them, of course. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:08, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Burr dilemma[edit]
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Not notable enough. The page seems to have only one or two citations to a pair of closely-related papers by the same author, both mostly speculative. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 01:38, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Maybe it can be merged with a related article. --Erel Segal (talk) 15:32, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
- I think that a brief mention could be added to bullet voting. Closed Limelike Curves (talk) 04:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, because the citations in the article aren't the only ones that exist. Though, I wouldn't be against merging it with a related article if a sufficiently related one can be found. Loki (talk) 04:47, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Looking through the Google Scholar results Loki has linked to, I could not find any detailed discussion of the Burr dilemma. Many of the articles do not use the phrase "Burr dilemma" and seem to be included in the search solely because they include Jack Nagal's paper in their list of references. Mgp28 (talk) 14:41, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep I checked through the first dozen articles listed as citing the relevant study [70], and about half of those contain a statement of the type "Nagel (2007) refers to this as the Burr dilemma" or "Nagel offers a critique of this type of voting by [minimal summary]". That is not exactly grand notability but I think it suffices to show a certain amount of uptake and acknowledgement in the field. A merge would certainly work as well though. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 11:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
Faris Mannekkara[edit]
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Likely to fail WP:NBIO - sourced to PR/puff pieces.
Earlier draft: Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara KH-1 (talk) 00:50, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete The editor who wrote this article made a Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara on 08:13, 22 June 2024 and kept it and later made a new article with a slight change in the title, which is a wrong trend and does not prove WP:NBIO. ~ Spworld2 (talk) 04:00, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Although the editor who made this page did a mistake by creating a draft and then again creating it into the main space, maybe he is a newbie that's why....but if we look at the person's page, he was awarded the community Leader Award from the Kerala State Women's Development Corporation which is a state award from the person's home state which is in Kerala and the Fulbright Foundation’s Global Changemaker Award in 2023 which is a International award given by the US Government which i believe at least qualify the award category of the people's notability guidelines according to the guidelines written in Wikipedia. This guy also has a significant coverage in The Times of India, Economics Times , Ahmedabad Mirror which i believe is considered reliable in Wikipedia. So we have 2 of the 3 basic criteria except the national dictionary thing ....also While reading the content of these articles i don't see any kind of sponsored post written or a disclaimer in the news coverage these are just my analysis. SATavr (talk) 16:19, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- It may be ignorance / new editor who wrote the draft and then made a new page, but destroyed the first edits in the first draft and deleted it in a completely unrecognizable form, added another person to it and added it to his date of birth and created a misunderstanding because of lack of knowledge?? Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara Difference between revisions [71], Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara 2nd Difference between revisions[72] Spworld2 (talk) 06:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I do agree with you. It was a stupid mistake done by this new editor and i think he lacks the patience for it and just wanted to go directly with a shortcut way for publication. Thats why he change the draft content to a different person and he thought we would'nt know lol..... I believe he has learned a lesson not to do it again and i hope he has got to know that things doesnt workout like this. SATavr (talk) 09:10, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- It may be ignorance / new editor who wrote the draft and then made a new page, but destroyed the first edits in the first draft and deleted it in a completely unrecognizable form, added another person to it and added it to his date of birth and created a misunderstanding because of lack of knowledge?? Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara Difference between revisions [71], Draft:Muhammed Faris Mannekkara 2nd Difference between revisions[72] Spworld2 (talk) 06:03, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep A before search comes up with many sources. (e.g. [1] [2]. Numerous articles featuring the names appear, the most of them in Hindi and English. Tiger-in-Action (talk) 08:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- PR/churnalism doesn’t count. Both articles are just advertorials for his car company.-KH-1 (talk) 10:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
- These articles discuss his side automobile firm, yet his Wikipedia biography hardly ever mentions this information. The autogenerated nature of these stories is not disclaimed, as is typically the case. The name of the publisher, Sunil Chaurasia, is also mentioned in The Economic Times. His social work is the subject of major pieces that don't appear to be PR or churnalism. They include original research, such as his participation in and thorough coverage of the Sankesh Foundation and the Smiles Foundation. - [3] which is covered in the Ahmedabad Mirror. Another example is his relationship with Shyalash C, his mentor, which isn't mentioned on his Wikipedia page but is confirmed as original research in Punjab Kesari - [4]. Tiger-in-Action (talk) 09:09, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- PR/churnalism doesn’t count. Both articles are just advertorials for his car company.-KH-1 (talk) 10:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
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Michael Nevin (diplomat)[edit]
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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. Fails WP:GNG. Uhooep (talk) 22:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment I nominated quite a few of the diplomat articles I previously created for deletion, but I left this one out as there was coverage of his time in Malawi in the Nyasa Times and other Malawian sources. : [73], [74], [75], [76] [77]. May be more available. Unsure if this fails GNG. Heavy Grasshopper (talk) 09:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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Britannica International Encyclopedia[edit]
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No sourcing that I could find besides sales listings and a single sentence mention in an issue of The Booklist from 2008, but there is a language barrier so my Japanese searches may have not been effective. Could probably be merged and mentioned somewhere if there aren't other sources. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:28, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge and redirect to History of the Encyclopædia Britannica#Global Edition (or create a separate section in that article for non-English editions). Dekimasuよ! 00:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to History of the Encyclopædia Britannica#Global Edition seems most sensible. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)