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Section sizes

Section size for Republic of Artsakh (64 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	20,036	20,036
Etymology	5,057	5,057
History	125	27,847
Dissolution of the USSR; First Nagorno-Karabakh War (1988–1994)	4,870	4,870
De facto post-war independence (1994–2020)	3,542	3,542
Second Nagorno-Karabakh War (2020), Azerbaijan gains	3,426	3,426
Aftermath of 2020 war	939	939
Blockade (2022–2023)	8,200	8,200
2023 Azerbaijani offensive, exodus, and dissolution	6,745	6,745
Geography	2,680	2,680
Government and politics	6,143	33,186
Constitution	8,526	8,526
Administrative divisions	7,074	7,074
Law enforcement	808	3,731
Police of Artsakh	1,194	1,194
National Security Service	1,729	1,729
Military	3,296	3,296
Foreign relations	4,416	4,416
De facto independent Artsakh (1993–2023): conflicting ideologies and diplomacy	123	25,931
Artsakh–Armenia relations	4,468	4,468
Negotiations, outside mediation (2001–2007)	52	9,852
2001 Paris, Key West talks	845	845
2004 Astana talks	539	539
2006 Rambouillet talks	785	785
2006 Bucharest meeting	5,133	5,133
2006 Prague Process	1,181	1,181
2007 Azerbaijan's PKK claim	1,317	1,317
Armenian, Artsakh fundamental positions (c. 2007–10)	3,895	3,895
Aliyev: fundamental position on Armenia, Nagorno-Karabakh (2008)	773	773
UN, EU, Minsk Group diplomacy (2008–10)	5,517	5,517
Armenian position (2019)	1,303	1,303
Displacement, landmines problem during conflict (1988–2023)	157	13,416
Displaced people	23	10,363
Azeri and other non-Armenian refugees	8,173	8,173
Armenian refugees	2,167	2,167
Land mines	2,896	2,896
Economy	4,505	23,612
Tourism	7,421	10,459
Artsakh Wine Fest	3,038	3,038
Transportation	5,740	5,740
Communications	2,908	2,908
Demographics	6,000	38,362
Resettlement attempts after 1994	13,366	13,366
Ethnic composition	6,543	6,543
Languages	2,981	2,981
Religion	517	6,252
Armenian monasteries and churches	5,735	5,735
Education	1,493	3,220
Universities	145	1,727
State universities	392	392
Commercial universities	644	644
Colleges	385	385
Military Academies	161	161
Culture	40	8,413
Monuments	3,153	3,153
Museums	447	447
Publications	759	759
Sports	2,634	2,634
Holidays	1,380	1,380
See also	304	304
Notes	24	24
References	28	28
Further reading	259	259
External links	1,297	1,297
Total	200,452	200,452

On 7 May 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to Artsakh. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Flag of Azerbaijan SSR[edit]

It's anachronistic to use Azerbaijan SSR flag, instead of its flag during NKAO's dissolution. It is the same flag with current one with different shade. Either use the correct one, or remove it completely. Beshogur (talk) 15:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is anachronistic to just write "Azerbaijan" or use that Azeri flag. NKAO's "dissolution" was 26 November 1991, and Azerbaijan's independence is officially 26 December 1991, so the name and flag are incorrect and anachronistic. --KhndzorUtogh (talk) 22:21, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit is anachronistic. Azerbaijan used the name Republic of Azerbaijan and this flag right from 5 February 1991. Does not matter whether it's recognized later or not. Beshogur (talk) 11:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay but notice how the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic article still uses the 1952–1991 flag, because it is the flag most commonly associated with the republic, which is why it should be the flag used here as well. And I assume you are not opposed to adding SSR back because you did not comment on it? KhndzorUtogh (talk) 23:28, 23 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Supreme Soviet of Azerbaijan or rather the "Supreme Soviet of the Azerbaijan Republic" back then abolished the NKAO. So it's kinda tricky. I rather remove predecessor, successor thing. Here is the abolition law. Beshogur (talk) 01:38, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The NKAO was was officially abolished on 26 November 1991, but Artsakh had declared independence on 2 September 1991 and had an official referendum on 10 December 1991 (Zürcher, p. 168), while also being a continuation of the same de facto government since 1989 (p. 165). --KhndzorUtogh (talk) 22:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the name/flag change of Azerbaijan occured on 5 February 1991. Beshogur (talk) 11:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But that's not the flag the Flag of the Azerbaijan Soviet Socialist Republic infobox uses. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 22:14, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Republic of Artsakh declared independence on 2 September 1991 and held an official referendum on 10 December 1991. Azerbaijan declared independence on 18 October which became recognized when the USSR dissolved on 26 December. So by either metric, Azerbaijan SSR is not anachronistic. --KhndzorUtogh (talk) 22:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

3O Response: Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Icons § Avoid flag icons in infoboxes and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Icons § Consistency is not paramount, remove the flags entirely. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 18:49, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Beshogur (talk) 14:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should the parameter for flag icons be removed from Template:Infobox country then? KhndzorUtogh (talk) 21:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Considering they're in such a high-profile infobox, it's probably for a good reason. MOS is just a guideline, and it only says "avoid". You can take it up there if you want. Snowmanonahoe (talk · contribs · typos) 11:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nagorno-Karabakh: did it exist as a region during the 1918-1920 period[edit]

Quote: The predominantly Armenian-populated region of Nagorno-Karabakh was claimed by both the Azerbaijan Democratic Republic and the First Republic of Armenia when both countries became independent in 1918 after the fall of the Russian Empire.

Note: the period related to the quote obtains the 1918-1920 timeline.

Questions: Did the Nagorno-Karabakh region exist as an entity during the 1918-1920 period?

If yes, can anyone provide any reference to a region of "Nagorno-Karabakh" related to that period?

Can anyone provide the exact borders of the region (if it existed and was named "Nagorno-Karabakh")?

if the region of Nagorno-Karabakh did not officially exist during that period, how can one discuss whether it was predominantly populated by any of the ethnic groups? Hew Folly (talk) 19:42, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Region" is a generic and vague geographical term, and by its use often points to an area not being a geopolitical entity. If you are looking for a geopolitical entity, the Karabakh Council article covers that period, although the article's sourcing is poor. CMD (talk) 02:09, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. The map of the " 1918-1920 Karabakh Council" is not only unsourced but also falsified. You can check my explanation.Talk:Karabakh Council#A strange 1918-1920 map with a town that did not exist back then Hew Folly (talk) 21:46, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In 1918-1920 Nagorno-Karabakh had all the trappings of statehood, including the army and the legitimate authority.In response to the peace initiatives of the people of Nagorno-Karabakh, Azerbaijani Democratic Republic launched a military action https://usa.mfa.am/en/karabagh#:~:text=In%201918%2D1920%20Nagorno%2DKarabakh,Republic%20launched%20a%20military%20action. UnsungHistory (talk) 17:09, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Armenian Embassy is not a reliable source. Hew Folly (talk) 19:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

TFD[edit]

Republic of Artsakh#:~:text=Artsakh Street in Watertown, Massachusetts in 2011

This is trivial, and shouldn't be included in the article. There are also no mentions of the street on neither the Watertown article or the Artsakh article excluding the trivial image on the Arksakh article, with no points provided to its significance. NikolaiVektovich (talk) 18:07, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't make sense in the History section, assumed from the description it would be in Foreign relations. CMD (talk) 01:54, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms' years of usage[edit]

Just like the flag, the coat of arms of the Republic of Artsakh wasn't immediately adopted in 1991 in the midst of the dissolution of the Soviet Union, similarly to how many other post-Soviet recognized or unrecognized states did not come up with their own non-communist symbols until as late as 1994 (e.g. Tajikistan). The description under the image of the coat of arms explicitly states 17 November 1992 as the date of adoption, hence that would make total sense to mention it in the infobox just as this information is mentioned on every historical state/entity article. CapLiber (talk) 04:38, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]