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Spanish figures: Add them please

The spanish figure is 2-3% redhaired people according to data. I leave the link here https://www.elmundo.es/magazine/2003/183/1048874109.html#:~:text=Si%20s%C3%B3lo%20el%207%25%20de,tanto%20dorado%20por%20nuestras%20ciudades? (Si sólo el 7% de los españoles es rubio natural (el 57% es castaño, el 26% moreno, el 3% pelirrojo y el 10% restante moreno y castaño claros)

Edit Suggestion - Genetics

Under section 2.1 Genetics I propose the following addition:

A haplotype has been identified on the ASIP locus on chromosome 20 that is associated with red hair.^[1] The ASIP locus prevents the MC1R receptor from producing melanocyte-stimulating hormone. As a result, less eumelanin and more pheomelanin is produced. Pheomelanin has been linked to red hair and increased risk of skin damage due to UV light.

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^ Sturm, Richard (April 15, 2009). "Molecular genetics of human pigmentation diversity". Human Molecular Genetics. 18 (R1). doi:https://doi.org/10.1093/hmg/ddp003. Retrieved 25 September 2017. {{cite journal}}: Check |doi= value (help); External link in |doi= (help)
^ Nasti, Tahseen; Timares, Laura (7 Novemeber 2014). "MC1R, Eumelanin and Pheomelanin: Their Role in Determining the Susceptibility to Skin Cancer". Photochemistry and Photobiology. 91 (1). doi:10.1111/php.12335. Retrieved 29 September 2017. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

Some irish people say irish have red hair because of the vikings?

I have heard some irish people say that some irish people have red or blonde hair because of the Germanic invasion(Vikings) of Ireland. Why do irish people say this?

Medieval antisemitism

The following proposition:

The medieval prejudice against red-hair may have derived from the Ancient biblical tradition, in relation to biblical figures such as Esau and King David.

is unsourced and it is contraddicted by the Bible. 1 Samuel 16:1–13 affirms king David "was ruddy, with bright eyes, and good-looking." King David has been proclaimed saint for all the Christian Churches whi veretate the saints: his being ruddy couldn't have arisen any prejudice against rutilism.

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"1–2% of the world population" - citation needed. As far as I'm aware, no reliable source states this. Bunny (talk) 22:23, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^{[citation needed]} tag added. Charliehdb (talk) 04:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed it. Looking back through the page history it appears that this was originally sourced (poorly) some while back to a National Geographic article in September 2007. This was the same article that spawned the "redheads going extinct" fallacy, so I don't think any reliance should be placed on it. The 1-2% figure has hung around the article since then, without any further sourcing. So long past time for it to go. --Escape Orbit ^(Talk) 12:06, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Article Title: Red hair

Current issue: The text "Shah Ismayil of Persia" should be updated. Additionally, Shah Ismayil's portrait is not placed appropriately and lacks descriptive text.

Text Correction:

Change "Shah Ismayil of Persia" to "Shah Ismayil of Iran" or "Shah Ismayil of the Safavid dynasty."

Portrait Relocation:

Move Shah Ismayil's portrait to the Asian section of the article.

Additional Text About Red Hair:

Add the following sentence to explain how Shah Ismayil ended up being a redhead: "Shah Ismayil I was known for his red hair, which he probably inherited through a mix of Azerbaijani and Kurdish ancestry." Zeta Tensai (talk) 17:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 06:30, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. The term "Persia" is commonly used in Western literature to refer to Iran. However, the country's official name has always been "Iran." Therefore, it is more accurate to refer to Shah Ismayil as "Shah Ismayil of Iran" or "Shah Ismayil of the Safavid Dynasty," which provides clarity regarding the specific period and dynasty.

2. Iran is geographically located in Asia, so it makes sense to place Shah Ismayil I's portrait in the Asian section of the article.

3. Regarding the source about Shah Ismayil's hair color, the portrait is a primary source, and his hair color is red (orange) there.

4. Concerning to Ismayil 1's turkic (turkmen) ethnicity many reputable sources exist:

Fovi, N. The Making and Diasporization of Iranian Sexual, Religious, and Political Asylum Seekers. The Brown Journal of World Affairs. vol.30, iss.2.

Quoted:

"...The declaration of Shi'i Islam as the state's religion that predates the Republic itself was a strategic move by the ruling Safavids (r. 1501-1722) to distinguish themselves from the neighboring Sunni Ottomans, with whom they shared both Turkic and Islamic identities, as well as a rejection of Arab identification..."

including other sources, such as "The Safavid World" by Rudi Matthee et al., "Iran Under the Safavids" by Roger Savory, and most extenive and importantly "The Cambridge History of Iran. Volume 6: The Timurid and Safavid Periods" edited by Peter Jackson and Laurence Lockhart" 109.239.26.172 (talk) 09:06, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Sturm, Richard (April 15, 2009). "Molecular genetics of human pigmentation diversity". Human Molecular Genetics. 18 (R1). doi:https://doi.org/10.1093/hmg/ddp003. Retrieved 25 September 2017. {{cite journal}}: Check |doi= value (help); External link in |doi= (help)

[2] Nasti, Tahseen; Timares, Laura (7 Novemeber 2014). "MC1R, Eumelanin and Pheomelanin: Their Role in Determining the Susceptibility to Skin Cancer". Photochemistry and Photobiology. 91 (1). doi:10.1111/php.12335. Retrieved 29 September 2017. {{cite journal}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

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