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Rushdie and Israel

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In light of the picture of Rushdie with Pres. Peres, does anybody know anything about Rushdie's political opinions regarding Israel? I think it would be interesting in the article.

Matter of WP:Due and WP:Relevance.

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Similar to other aspects, info about his awards is already extensively highlighted in the lead, despite an entire section dedicated to it. Therefore, details of Rushdie's five marriages and divorces have received controversy and are highly relevant due to their media coverage and impact on his public persona and legacy. They provide context to his life, warranting their inclusion upfront. StarkReport (talk) 08:15, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality

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Hi, sorry for my ignorant and silly comments on this. However, I find the current lead sentence pretty distracting, and imo, we should either change the descriptor to "Indian-born" (as what we've already done to Albert Einstein) or omit it (as what we've already done to Elon Musk, Tina Turner, Paulina Porizkova, etc).

Regards, Thedarkknightli (talk) 12:45, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The lead already states that he is an "Indian-born British-American novelist". Kerdooskistalk 15:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kerdooskis: well, I mean, imo, we should either trim the descriptor to simply "Indian-born" or omit it. Thedarkknightli (talk) 16:00, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Thedarkknightli: Wasn't this discussed already at great length in an RFC that you started a year back? Abecedare (talk) 16:20, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Abecedare: yes, we did reach a consensus that him being born in India is lead-worthy through that RfC; conversely, there isn't a consensus that we should trim (or omit) the descriptor, is there? Thedarkknightli (talk) 17:03, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please read the discussion and the sources cited therein. I think this is getting tendentious and hope that if you wish to restart the discussion, you'll present some sources and better arguments than that you find the particulars of Rushdie's transnationality, which is central to his literary output, "pretty distracting". Abecedare (talk) 17:29, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Abecedare: OK, thanks for your timely reply and thank you guys indeed for your participation in that discussion. I've just read it and the sources cited therein thoroughly. Well, the FAQ page of Elon Musk says his three nationalities (South African, Canadian and American, which are all relevant to his notability) have all been omitted in the lead sentence cuz "including these nationalities in the opening sentence in a balanced way would be complex ...", which also applies to Rushdie's case imo. Thedarkknightli (talk) 16:58, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It could be argued that in Musk's case, understanding his nationalities/citizenships isn't key to understanding his work. In Rushdie's case, his background is indeed more intimately connected to his work. Kerdooskistalk 18:19, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly. As was also discussed at the RFC and mentioned in my above comment ("which is central to his literary output"). And here's Salman Rushdie himself (circa 2019):

CHRIS HAYES: Your work in many ways, I mean, going back to "Midnight's Children" and certainly through "Satanic Verses" and other works really wrestles with the sort of questions of identity and also the sort of dark-core nationalism and fundamentalism as these kind of out chemical forces in people.

SALMAN RUSHDIE: Yeah. I've been an immigrant most of my life. I started off being an immigrant from India into England, then from England into New York. So that condition is my normal condition, and that is actually for a writer not a bad position to be in because you feel simultaneously inside and outside of society.... So yeah, those subjects of belonging and un-belonging and who you are when you and your family move halfway across the world and find yourself in a different culture, different language surrounded by people you don't know. How do you deal with that?... I've never managed to write a book that did not have an Indian character at the center of it. I never managed to do it because those are the eyes through which I see the world.

Abecedare (talk) 18:37, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]