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Al Beruni never used adam's bridge but used setubandana and explained above Ramayan and not adam's story.[edit]
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From "India" by Al-Beruni, page 100-101
"The distance from Panjayavar to Ramsher (Rameshar, Rameshwaram?) is 40 farsakh, that between Ramsher and Setubandha 2 farsakh. Setubandha means bridge of the ocean. It is the dike of Rama, the son of Dasaratha, which he built from the continent to the castle Lanka. At present it consists of isolated mountains between which the ocean flows. Sixteen farsakh from Setubandha towards the east is Kihkind the mountain of the monkey. Every day the king of monkeys comes out of the thicket together with his hosts, and settles down in particular seats prepared for them. The inhabitants of that region prepare for them cooked rice, and bring it to them on leaves. After having eaten it they return into the thicket, but in case they are neglected, this would be the ruin of the country, as they are not only numerous but also savage and aggressive. According to the popular belief, they are a race of men changed into monkeys on account of the help which they had afforded Rama when making war against the demons; he is believed to have bequeathed those villages to them as a legacy. When a man happens to fall in with them, and he recites to them the poetry of Rama and pronounces the incarnations of Rama, they will quietly listen to him; they will even lead on the right path him who has gone astray and give him meat and drink. At all events, thus the matter stands according to popular belief.
- India by Al-Beruni, page 100-101
Abridged Edition of Dr. Edward C. Sachau's English Translation Edited with Introduction and Notes by Qeyamuddin Ahmad, Second Edition Third Reprint 1995
farsakh: a persian unit for measuring distance that equals three and a half to four miles
Abu Raihan Muhammad ibn Ahmad, a Muslim of Iranian origin, commonly known as Al-Beruni, born A.D. 973 at the outskirts of Khawarizm (modern day Khiva in Uzbekistan), wrote Kitabu'l Hind in around 1030 during the reign of Sultan Mahmud. He was the first person to document Hindu beliefs regarding Setubandha, now known as Ram Setu.
This should be corrected in the article and his description can be added Afv12e (talk) 06:42, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Your request is quite vague. Please make a specific suggestion of what should be corrected and how it should be corrected. ~Anachronist (talk) 06:58, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 22:14, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- The change wanted is reasonably clear, I think. I checked the ref in the article and made this change based on what it said:[1]. Afv12e, thanks for pointing this out. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Afv12e (talk) 14:47, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- Just wondering in the source where it mentioned that 'it was during Al Beruni times the word 'Adam's bridge' first appeared.
- Because even Al Beruni used the word 'Setubandha ' and he bever used 'adam's bridge' in his writings. Afv12e (talk) 14:49, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- What I'm reading is bottom of page 58 [2], and I attempted to paraphrase that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- In the article , the rephrased sentence :
- The name Adam's Bridge appeared probably around the time of Al-Biruni (c. 1030)
- and in the source the original sentence :
- The term Adam's Bridge does not appear to have been given by the Arabians until the time of Albyrouni (1030 a.d.).
- These sentences convey similar meaning but :
- the second statement makes it clearer that the term itself wasn't in use among Arabians prior to that time
- So is that apt to use the second sentence itself ? Afv12e (talk) 15:19, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- To me there's not much of a difference. @Anachronist, feel like having an opinion? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- If we're referring only to when the name appeared, both sentences say the same thing. If we're referring to whether Arabians were using that term, then perhaps Arabians could be mentioned, but in the context of the paragraph I don't think it's necessary. ~Anachronist (talk) 16:52, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- To me there's not much of a difference. @Anachronist, feel like having an opinion? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:28, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- What I'm reading is bottom of page 58 [2], and I attempted to paraphrase that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
- The change wanted is reasonably clear, I think. I checked the ref in the article and made this change based on what it said:[1]. Afv12e, thanks for pointing this out. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:50, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
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According to archeological survey of India,the ram satu i.e Adam's bridge is a man-made bridge built about 7000 years ago while ramayan i.e also 7000 years old.This proves the ram setu build or formed during ramanaya epic. I REQUEST WIKIPEDIA TO MAKE THIS CHANGE,THIS A SENSITIVE TOPIC. Avi4rag (talk) 04:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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