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Greek italics could be the way it has been written

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The text in the Voynych Manuscript could be Greek Italics. Lara3030 (talk) 09:02, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It could be telling a story about nitric oxide (which was not even discovered at the time of the manuscript's assumed creation date) and the importance of health directions to try and avoid ovarian cancer. These words could be picked up by running a Greek to Russian translation with Google Lens (Google Lens seems to pick up some parts of the text as Greek Italics). Lara3030 (talk) 09:22, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is also something about the Greek army service in 401 BC, though I may be wrong. Lara3030 (talk) 09:23, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The text could be many things, but only hypotheses repeated in reliable secondary sources warrant inclusion in the article. Otherwise the article would be much too long. Also, Google Lens, like all machine learning models, is based on guesswork and often makes mistakes. Justin Kunimune (talk) 22:18, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Lara3030 What do you mean? This is what I intend with "Greek italics".-- Carnby (talk) 11:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Spake by David L Williams

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The manuscript is a major plot point in a play - Spake, by David L Williams. See https://newplayexchange.org/plays/14094/spake. 66.76.14.59 (talk) 15:35, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the heads-up! I am not sure that it is WP:DUE for inclusion in the article at this point, but it may be in the future. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 18:56, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Another attempt

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News from Italy. Scholar Eleonora Matarrese states she has deciphered the manuscript: la Repubblica (quite reliable source).-- Carnby (talk) 11:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It may be churnalism given how much of that text is an exact copy of similar sites like Adnkronos and iLLibraio. I'm not sure if this is enough to warrant mentioning as a decipherment claim on the article itself, but news articles come out every few years with similar claims and it's just the latest of a very, very long list. - Aoidh (talk) 22:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And what about this paper [1]? It seems pretty sound and well documented to me. --95.233.177.138 (talk) 12:13, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's from November 2022. If it hasn't made it into reliable secondary (or tertiary) sources by now, it is with high probability because it is fringe, and not a reliable wp:SOURCE. (If it had been new, I'd have said that it with high probability was fringe, and shouldn't be included until it made it into reliable sources -- unless it had created so much of a stir in mainstream media that we should cover that stir (probably without endorsing the theory). (talk) 15:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What I'm seeing online ([2][3][4][5]) marks that publisher as a predatory publisher, and whether that's true or not I don't see any evidence that this paper is in any way peer reviewed or acknowledged in any reliable sources. - Aoidh (talk) 16:22, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So only attempts or claims published in a peer-reviewed journal should be mentioned?-- Carnby (talk) 21:02, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Claims that have been covered by independent reliable sources should be considered as possibly mentioning, but if every claim was mentioned it would be a list hundreds of names long. The Voynich manuscript may be an important part of a scholar's work, but is the scholar's work an important part of what we know of the Voynich manuscript? Routine churnalism isn't evidence that this is the case. - Aoidh (talk) 21:34, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, It translates more text, in a less far fetched manner, compared to other listed attempts. 2601:14D:4D7E:E80:25A2:6B77:2E81:5814 (talk) 12:18, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You agree ... with what? Do you have a valid source for this? (talk) 18:59, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Multispectral images released

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This news from today should probably be covered in the wiki page. https://manuscriptroadtrip.wordpress.com/2024/09/08/multispectral-imaging-and-the-voynich-manuscript/ Makeworldpedia (talk) 03:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More Cheshire

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https://www.academia.edu/35769088/Linguistic_Missing_Links_instruction_in_decrypting_translating_and_transliterating_MS408_the_only_document_known_to_use_both_proto_Romance_language_and_proto_Italic_symbols_for_its_writing_system?email_work_card=title

This paper provides the solution to understanding the hitherto unknown writing system used for the manuscript listed as MS 408 at the Beinecke Library, Yale University. The writing system uses symbols, punctuation, grammar and language that are each unique. The manuscript is not encrypted, in the sense that its author made an effort to conceal the contents of the manuscript, as has been presumed by some scholars. Instead, it is code only in the sense that the modern reader needs to be versed in the calligraphic and linguistic rules to be able to translate and read the texts. Furthermore, in discovering its writing system, it became apparent that the manuscript is of invaluable importance to the study of the evolution of the Romance languages and the scheme of Italic letters and associated punctuation marks now commonplace in those and other modern languages. In short; it is revealed to be the only known document both written in Vulgar Latin, or proto-Romance, and using proto-Italic symbols. The original title for the manuscript, given by its female author, is: What one needs to be sure to acquire for the evils set in one's fate. It is a book offering homeopathic advice and instruction to women of court on matters of the heart, of sexual congress, of reproduction, of motherhood and of the physical and emotional complications that can arise along the way through life. The manuscript has now been dated to the year 1444 and the location of its creation has been pinpointed to the court of Castello Aragonese, on the island of Ischia: as expounded in the companion paper Linguistically Dating and Locating Manuscript MS408: http://ling.auf.net/lingbuzz/003808 Keith Henson (talk) 19:24, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

But this is just more Cheshire. He has of course solved all of these problems (as of course has Eleonora Matarrese, entirely differently), but until third-party scholars who are actually experts in something confirm that his claims make sense, they do not belong in WP. Incidentally, "homeopathic advice", given centuries before the invention of homeopathy would be identified how, exactly? Imaginatorium (talk) 19:48, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
homeopathy . . . No idea, ask Cheshire. I think his email is easy to fine, if not ask me. Keith Henson (talk) 23:37, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]