This article is within the scope of WikiProject Numismatics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of numismatics and currencies on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.NumismaticsWikipedia:WikiProject NumismaticsTemplate:WikiProject Numismaticsnumismatic articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Economics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Economics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EconomicsWikipedia:WikiProject EconomicsTemplate:WikiProject EconomicsEconomics articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject United Kingdom, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the United Kingdom on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.United KingdomWikipedia:WikiProject United KingdomTemplate:WikiProject United KingdomUnited Kingdom articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject England, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of England on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.EnglandWikipedia:WikiProject EnglandTemplate:WikiProject EnglandEngland-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Northern Ireland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Northern Ireland on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Northern IrelandWikipedia:WikiProject Northern IrelandTemplate:WikiProject Northern IrelandNorthern Ireland-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Scotland, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Scotland and Scotland-related topics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.ScotlandWikipedia:WikiProject ScotlandTemplate:WikiProject ScotlandScotland articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Wales, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Wales on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.WalesWikipedia:WikiProject WalesTemplate:WikiProject WalesWales articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Channel Islands, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Channel Islands on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Channel IslandsWikipedia:WikiProject Channel IslandsTemplate:WikiProject Channel IslandsChannel Islands-related articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Isle of Man, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of the Isle of Man on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Isle of ManWikipedia:WikiProject Isle of ManTemplate:WikiProject Isle of ManIsle of Man articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Jersey, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Jersey on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.JerseyWikipedia:WikiProject JerseyTemplate:WikiProject JerseyJersey articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject British Empire, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of British Empire on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.British EmpireWikipedia:WikiProject British EmpireTemplate:WikiProject British EmpireBritish Empire articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject British Overseas Territories, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of British Overseas Territories on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.British Overseas TerritoriesWikipedia:WikiProject British Overseas TerritoriesTemplate:WikiProject British Overseas TerritoriesBritish Overseas Territories articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Antarctica, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Antarctica on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AntarcticaWikipedia:WikiProject AntarcticaTemplate:WikiProject AntarcticaAntarctica articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Caribbean, an attempt to build a comprehensive guide to the countries of the Caribbean on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can edit this article, or visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. If you are new to editing Wikipedia visit the welcome page to become familiar with the guidelines.CaribbeanWikipedia:WikiProject CaribbeanTemplate:WikiProject CaribbeanCaribbean articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject South America, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of articles related to South America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.South AmericaWikipedia:WikiProject South AmericaTemplate:WikiProject South AmericaSouth America articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Africa, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Africa on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.AfricaWikipedia:WikiProject AfricaTemplate:WikiProject AfricaAfrica articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Gibraltar, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Gibraltar and related articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.GibraltarWikipedia:WikiProject GibraltarTemplate:WikiProject GibraltarGibraltar articles
This article is within the scope of WikiProject Polynesia, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Polynesia on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PolynesiaWikipedia:WikiProject PolynesiaTemplate:WikiProject PolynesiaPolynesia articles
The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this discussion.A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
The current advice is poorly worded and potentially creates more issues than it solves.
The specific line in question is this: "GBP, sterling's ISO 4217 code, should be used to disambiguate that currency from others. Avoid using stg. or GB£."
This is unclear and gives no aid to helping resolve problems comparing with currencies that never had ISO currency codes. It has resulted in some strange anomalies like in this diff[1]; where an ISO code was crowbarred into a sentence about the early 18th century, prior to the existence of the United Kingdom or even the Kingdom of Great Britain. This has since been corrected, but I feel we should have more categorical advice in such circumstances.
My proposal is that this line be rewritten as this:
Do not append £ with abbreviations or codes (£123 STG or £123 GBP), in the vast majority of circumstances a simple pound sign alone will suffice to denote sterling. In those cases where disambiguation is absolutely necessary (for example if comparing with the historical Irish or South African pounds) qualify with the full word "sterling" (£123 sterling)[a]
^The same methodology should be applied to the Irish, South African, Australian, and New Zealand pounds; £123 Irish, £123 South African, £123 Australian, £123 New Zealand, unless the context is specific to that country, in which case a simple pound sign may be used.
(invited by the bot) For me (and other potential participants) I'd suggest clarifying exactly what instructions you are talking about including exactly where they are. North8000 (talk) 20:49, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed this is not the right page, but WT:MOSNUM is. This is a WP:TALKFORK of discussion already open over there. As for this specific proposal and the wording it's trying to change, the notion that "GB£" or "UK£" should not be used but only "£" by itself or "GBP" is nonsense some rando made up out of nowhere, and inconsistent with our general treatement of currencies, which is to use the country code and the currency symbol at first occurrence if the context isn't already clear (no need to specify what "£" means in an article that's already entirely about the UK) or when comparing currencies. The pound sterling isn't "magically special" and doesn't need a divergent alleged rule written about it, so a proposal to makes tweak to the divergent alleged rule is a waste of time. The divergence should just be excised. — SMcCandlish☏¢ 😼 23:11, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why was the RFC here if it was about the MOS? I.... What is going on? I have no idea how to navigate or understand this website's processes..... 𝔖𝔱𝔬𝔩𝔦𝔱𝔷 (talk) 23:36, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The article states: ""Sterling" is the name of the currency as a whole while "pound" and "penny" are the units of account. This is analogous to the distinction between "renminbi" and "yuan" when discussing the official currency of the People's Republic of China."
This assertion is incorrect: "renminbi" and "yuan" are interchangeable terms for the currency of the People's Republic of China. Renmimbi is the official name for the currency, yuan is more of a colloquialism. Source: myself, having lived and worked in China. I recommend the article is corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.101.234.105 (talk) 09:07, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm afraid we will need a more reliable source than your personal experience of common usage: it would have to be a professional analysis. If you can find such, then please come back because there is a whole section on terminology at the Renminbi article that needs supporting (or denying!) evidence. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 10:09, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
level-4 vital article is rated C-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
The redirect Penny sterling has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 24 § Penny sterling until a consensus is reached. Jay 💬 07:03, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
