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Fiction Books

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Should we make articles on certain fiction novels? Please chat me at my talk page. My talk page-Editor028

Best source for date of first publication

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For the article Icebreaker (non-fiction book), I'm interested in this book: Suvorov, Viktor. Le brise-glace [The icebreaker] (in French). Translated by Berelowitch, Madeleine; Berelowitch, Vladimir. Olivier Orban. ISBN 978-2-85565-478-2. OCLC 461996651.

A 1990 translation/republication says it was first published in 1988. All other sources, such as Amazon, Worldcat, Google Books, and a 1990 review article say 1989. What's most reliable? I wouldn't care for the purposes of citation, but I wonder what year should be specified in the article text itself. Daask (talk) 18:16, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Daask, I'd use 1989, though there is a case for listing both (or creating a footnote that explains the discrepancy). WorldCat alone is the source most often referenced on Wikipedia for dates like this, though WorldCat can potentially miss earlier publications. A good next step would be to request a copy of the title and/or copyright pages (if they exist) to corroborate the date. I try to use reviews where possible. This one uses 1989. czar 18:15, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question about book covers uploads

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I have a fairly extensive physical library (at least in my narrow discipline) and could upload several scans of various book covers. Can this be done in Wikimedia Commons with a fair use attribution? I'm struggling to figure out how to best do this without causing any copyright issues. I've seen files uploaded directly onto Wikipedia, but have mostly used commons for creating images. GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 17:10, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for wanting to add these resources. If the book covers are still copyrighted, they can't go on Wikimedia Commons (which doesn't allow fair-use images, only truly copyright-free ones) but they can very usefully be uploaded to Wikipedia directly. I always use the Wikipedia:File upload wizard to upload book covers, which will eventually prompt you for a non-free use rationale. You'll be able to pick Template:Non-free book cover. You'd then need to add the image to the book article directly, so the fair use conditions would actually apply, so it's a little more complex than putting a whole bunch of images in Commons at once would be, but it would be extra helpful to readers! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 03:27, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation! That is unfortunate, I had hoped to just upload on Wikimedia Commons, but oh well. I'll check my excel sheet of books against pages to see what I can add using that approach. Have a great day! GeogSage (⚔Chat?⚔) 04:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
American book jackets published before 1978 in the US are considered separate works that require their own copyright notice/license (see commons:Template:US book dust jacket 1909–1977, so if you have hardcovers that were never published with a jacket copyright notice, they could be public domain uploads for Commons. czar 12:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As mentioned, if you upload to Wikipedia using Template:Non-free book cover you'll be asked for a non-free use rationale. That's generally similar for all book covers, and you can simply copy most of the wording from an existing file such as File:Three Bear Witness, 1st edition cover (Sanford).png. MichaelMaggs (talk) 13:14, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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