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I'm sorry if this has already been debated, but why is this article entitled "Seljuq" when "Seljuk" is much more established? I got 1,060,000 g-hits for "Seljuk" and 272,000 for "Seljuq," but I would be surprised if the division isn't more extreme in the printed word. The Oxford English Dictionary and Merriam-Webster both list "Seljuk" and not "Seljuq." All the books I have read on them (which do tend to be older) use "Seljuk" or even "Seljouk." "Seljuk" is more established in English and is the only thing that looks right to me, but if authenticity is an issue shouldn't we spell it seljukh? I don't think they themselves pronounced qaf propperly.

I tend to agree with you. Never heard Seljuq before. Also note the empire is Seljuk. Feldercarb (talk) 22:06, 4 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Chaghri-Beg and Khorasan

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This article lacks the mention of the rulership/governorship of Khorasan by members of the family, two brothers were ruling the House of Saljuq, one eastern and the other western. It is only mentioned in the family tree, some members of the family also ruled the whole Empire like Alp Arslan before abdicating the Khorasinian region for his son. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 22:52, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a reliable source stating this, add it to the article. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I was looking through Professor Ian Mladjov's work to help me understand better the fragmentation of the Abbasid, it isn't exactly a book or an article but it is reliable, he is a professor of history, but it was posted on University of Michigan now it is posted somewhere else on google, I use it as a reference point. I am just thinking of a way to add it without disturbing the Great Sultan's table since they ruled from Isfahan while the governors of Khorasan ruled from Nishapur. Also I notice that Tughril's reign is WAAAAAAY to early, like 30+ years early, he started to officially Rule from the new capital in 1040, but he was ruling from other places starting in 1037. Alexis Ivanov (talk) 04:27, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppet

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Adding this here for the record; IP "78.165.74.227" is yet another IP sock of CU blocked sockmaster User:EMr KnG. His last blocked IPs and account were " 78.165.85.180", "78.165.72.147" and "AlpAy", who were all blocked very recently, and who had the exact same geo-location, exact same profiency in English, exact same concerns, and, above all, completely similar target articles as this new IP of the very same range. Refer also to the relevant ANI discussion where the circus show was revealed. - LouisAragon (talk) 01:17, 30 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Usage of "medieval"

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According to user:GilbertMidonnet, "medieval only applies to Western European history"

This is incorrect:

  • "The Making of the Medieval Middle East Religion, Society, and Simple Believers", Jack Tannous, Princeton University Press, 2020.
  • "Medieval Central Asia and the Persianate World", A.C.S.Peacock and D.G. Tor, I.B. Tauris, 2017.

I believe this is more than enough evidence. --Kansas Bear (talk) 16:34, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]