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Rays

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The case in the US seems to have produced no pups, and may have been a hoax. However, there is a report of a pup born from an ocellated eagle ray in 2018 [1]. I haven't evaluated the reliability of that one. --Dan Wylie-Sears 2 (talk) 13:03, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, yes. I think the moral is that we should avoid recency (if not recentism) and wait a year or two with any news story to see whether it actually goes anywhere useful. I'd be minded to remove the stuff altogether now. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:21, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite needed

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I've downrated this article to C. It contains much uncited material; it's poorly and unevenly written, jumping from sketchy to technical to uncited and back. The illustrations are poorly integrated with the text, and will leave the article's large number of readers none the wiser. Such sources as are cited are mainly highly specialised primary research, which often embodies individual scientists' points of view. The article basically needs a complete rethink and a total rewrite from reliable secondary sources. Chiswick Chap (talk) 04:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]